so em what did you guys think of the way King ended it, after 7 amazing books he puts us at the top of the tower and then ***BANG*** into a time loop! wtf, but then i guess the funs in the jurny and not where your going to ( dont get me wrong i LOVED all the books just felt a iny bit let down at the way it all ended in book 7 (or didnt end as it might be!!)
anyways guys whats your view?
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yeah i really should do that myself, but im not sure where to start, i have most of his books but there must be like 10 or more that tie in to the dark tower in some way, even flagg from "the stand" anyway you look at it King is a master and his books ROCK, thinking back about it all i wish andy the robot had a bigger role, i liked him (i know he was bad) but then most people are in kings books thats what makes them so readable, em i think the 5th book was my fav, the way King put himself into the dark tower books was crazy!!! i was like NOOOOO way dude! lol
so witch book was your fav and why?
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who would you have play Roland if they was to make the books into films? when readding the books i always saw that guy from "gangs of new york"...emmm Daniel day lewis, i think thats his name (without the tash lol) as Roland, i guess if they made em into films there would have to be alot more then 7 to fit the story in without leavein too much out but anyways im going to put my yahoo ID at the bottem of the scrrean so if you wanna talk some more without haveing to keep going to your mail box then go ahead and PM me
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P.S the real wird thing about me loveing the dark tower books is the fact that i cant stand westerns lol (well ok young guns 1 & 2 rocked) but other then that im more into sci fi and horror books and films
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yeah i just looked up Henry Fonda online and saw some pics of him and wow its like they pulled the pic from my head!!!! lol. ive done Black House and trust me you will love it, there is a strong link to the DT in that book (my lips are staying shut on that dont wanna give anything away) also they could always use the same guy that played Flagg in "the stand" (TV mini) so it would all tie togther nicely, i thought he was good in that but i dont know his name, oh well back to my books lol right now im readding Card, Orson Scott - Ender's Saga, im on book 2, think starship troppers anyways thanks for the intresting chat its always nice to meet someone that likes readding as much as i do (even if my speling is crap)
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no i havent but i just now had a look online at some reviews, it looks like my kinda thing, thanks for the tip, thank god for amazon uk!!i should have it in a day or 3
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Young guns one and two sucked. don t be stupid
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King warned you not to read it.
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First of all, King addressed the issue of putting himself in the books which you can read in one of the afterward's. Secondly, as my opinion goes, he wrote his stories taking place partially in our world. Stephen King is the best selling author of ALL TIME. If indeed all things serve the Beam, then what more logical choice for the Beam than to use King as its tool.
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That ending was perfect, I don't know who could argue it to end any other way. ka is a wheel.. Roland always let most things take care of themselves for no other reason then he believed in fate and guess what? His future is already written throughout the whole book and he will always gain his friends, lose them and achieve his goal. Also explains why he has dreams of seeing when he will go to the tower, because it has already happened, he just doesn't know it.
shareI agree with DPom941082 - absolutely loved the series, but less than thrilled that King put himself in the story. That really took away from the atmosphere for me. I didn't like how he was writing the story in the story, he should have left himself out. The ending was interesting and unexpected, not sure if I love it or hate it (but like mentioned above, how else could he have ended?)
sharei thought it was a very sorry and unneccesary ending. he should have ended it with roland entering the tower, leaving the mystery to the reader.
then again, if he would have stuck describing what happens next, i would have expected some more insights, symbolism and whatnot. not something as easy as a time loop which has no function story wise. if roland's quest began long ago (before book 1) why would he be sent back to some place and time as random as the desert..
i must say i was disappointed after i had the chills running down my spine when he described roland seeing the tip of the tower for the first time. also the final battle was an anti climax for me.
allover though it's a nice series, i think including himself in the story has been one of the nicest ideas overall, and i can't wait for this to hit either a big or a tv screen near me..
when King put himself in the story that freaked me out big time
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I loved having him in there, just like I loved seeing him play bit roles in all of his movies back in the day when he did that. I saw nothing wrong with it, and was so excited when I first read the book (sorry, my memory isn't that great, and it's been years since I read them) that had a reference to The Stand in it. Never before have I reacted the same way to a book like I would have to a movie! I had to put the damn book down to say "No frikkin' way man!" and jump around a little. haha
And for that little bit part, if they put it in the series or whatever it is they're making now based on it, they should totally have the same guy play Randall Flagg. A lot of people didn't like him, but he was okay with me. Now, for the sake of continuity, they should have him again even if he wasn't everyone else's first choice to play RF to begin with.
sometimes what you learn gets in the way of what you know
I HATED the ending, but I have to admit that it was metaphorically brilliant once he gets into the tower. (The whole Crimson King showdown was less than anticlimactic.) It reminded me of the ending of NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN. I was actually sad for Roland. A good man who did everything to achieve his goal following a code of morality and was the 'hero', does not achieve a happy ending.
The metaphor of the tower and the rooms representing a 'life-review' is very Buddist and I was surprised at the depth of King's spiritual references. I interpreted it as reincarnation and that as we live in this lifetime we need to learn from our mistakes so that when we return again we can start at a further point along the path until we ultimately achieve 'enlightenment' and don't have to go through the Tower again. Roland had learned something important along this recent journey to the Tower, for he SAVED JAKE and was rewarded with the Horn at the Battle of Jericho. The universe, Gan, whatever, left him the horn in his next incarnation as a reminder that he made a better choice in his last life.
Upon reflection, (just like with No Country), the ending grew on me and once my anger and sadness for Roland's fate subsided, I realized that that was the only true ending for him for indeed that is the only ending for ALL of us when we die. We live this life, hopefully learn along the way, die and go to our 'tower' where we have our own life review, then we get spat back out onto this planet to do all over again. It's kind of depressing when you think about it.
One thing I wanted was for him to see Susan again.... at least at the Tower in one of the life review rooms - that still sticks in my craw. Maybe King will write the Dark Tower Second Series, Roland Reborn, and then in this incarnation, he can save Susan....???
Geeze, no. Susan can stay dead. I hated her character. I still can't get past book 4 because she is so unreadable...
shareI honestly thought King would end it with a crowd pleaser, like Roland goes up to the top of the tower and discovers it was not the tower itself he should have been after, but his friends. He should live life and not obsess over the tower, since he freed the breakers and everything is fine.
Then he would get Patrick to draw back his fingers and the Unfound Door, and go find Susannah, where ever she is, maybe even save her from one of the terrible monsters of the todash darkness.
I also came up with something along the lines of Roland using Black Thirteen to rescue Susan Delgado.
why would he be sent back to some place and time as random as the desert.
Fair enough, thanks for explaining :-)
shareHuge cop out, pretty much ruined the series. Not that I'm surprised, King is pretty terrible at endings.
Also, this is about the Stan Brakhage film.
The Dude abides. I don't know about you but I take comfort in that.
I'll bump this for the poster who asked about the ending of the book....
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BELIEVE in MIRACLES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL1iGIAyi0s
Thanks for the explanation of the horn as i always wondered wtf that was all about.
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