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So bad it was almost good... almost


I rented this movie and fell asleep twice while watching it but ended up suffering through it as to not completely waste my money for the rental.

This movie has the campiness of Evil-Dead, the dialog of a 5th grader's creative writing assignment, the worst story ever, and implemented terribly at that, like one set in the entire movie, the budget of pocket change, the cast of a bunch of japanese film students with nerdy matrix-wannabe costumes. The camera angles sucked and the production value as a whole was awful.

I didn't know it was possible to make a movie with samurai vs. Japanese mafia vs. escaped convicts vs. zombies hella *beep* Until now.

This movie is good only by falling into the "so bad it's good" category. It's mildly entertaining but universally overrated.

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Did you watch it dubbed or sub-titled? Sub-titles offers much better dialogue and the natural flow of Japanese sounds much better with regards to the characters.

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I watched it subtitled (plus I can understand a fair amount of the Japanese without the subtitles), and it still sucked pretty hard. I mean it had a few good moments and some comedic value, but in general, it was pretty much a chore to sit through. I gave it 3/10.

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Yeah, first of all, you've got to watch it in Japanese. And second.. watch it with a group of friends, so you can all laugh at it together. Because then it's just brilliant and one of the best movies ever.

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Yeah, first of all, you've got to watch it in Japanese. And second.. watch it with a group of friends, so you can all laugh at it together. Because then it's just brilliant and one of the best movies ever.


Well most of the horror movies should be watched either with friends, or some some drinks. I mean, if you're 5 and horror movies scare you, then I get that. But if you're in your 20s or 30s and expect to be scared by horror movies, then you're probably afraid of your own shadow in real life. No wonders why so many horror movies now rely either on (annoying) jump scares or gore\torture.

I don't watch horror movies for how "scary" they are for maybe last 15-20 years, only just how much they are entertaining (either by craziness, randomness, atmosphere or mood).

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same here... i felt that way too...the first time i watched it.

i remember hearinig so much about this movie and finally seeing it.....it was horrible.

then a month later i got bored and watched it again. strangely you notice some of the finer points second time around. i didnt start actually liking it til the 3rd time i watched it. after the 4th i was hooked. i dont see how anyone can like this the first time around, but you should give it another chance. if you dont, thats up to you and itll just be another closed view

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K what bothers me is the film is shot like an anime for 1 lets get that straight. It's suppose to be anime like. Also most people go oh hey this sucked and then you find out they like stuff like Hancock so lol... but yeah i loved it the acting is top notch honestly yeah there having fun but the acting is not crap. and the action scenes are pretty awesome, i mean Hollywood has been copying the Japs and Koreans with there awesome actions scenes for years, yeah they dish more money into is but so what? it looks dumb and cheesy half the time and there actually trying to be serious. This was just made for fun and good time.
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I freakin loved it the first time around. Anyone who doesnt get it and love it is full of zombie brains.

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It was one of my all-time favourite films the very first time I saw it.

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Well it isnt suppose to be taken that serious... I mean it is a comedy too
Some people just need 100 million dollars and Brad Pitt to think a movie is good
I mean look at The Dark Knight
That movie is goes on my top ten of terrible movies I have seen
And yet people think it is good
Maybe if the main character had died in real life it would be considered amazing

No matter how good our kung-fu is, it will never defeat guns.

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Well... completely sober, followed this movie around and wondered what it was like for 2 years, sought it out, found it...

...LOVED IT.

Thing is, everything you've cited actually adds to the movie's value. It has the campiness of an absurd comedy flick, like The Master of All Martial Arts or Green Shirt Yakuza or Hysterical Runt. They make you burst out laughing... especially or specifically when you're watching it with someone. All alone it doesn't add up to much, it's a "company" flick!

The dialogue borders on the insane. A hero who claims he's a feminist and proceeds to slap the girl that tagged along around, a Yakuza member that isn't bothered or shocked by ANYTHING, a runt that mostly screams... good stuff.

The worst story ever... I'll have to disagree on that one. They tied it up nicely, it got the movie going, and wasn't any worse than your classical horror/zombie flicks.

One set for the entire movie - it serves its purposes. It isolates the characters further and makes room for the craziness to ensue smoothly, without having to add additional bystander reactions into the cut.

The budget of pocket change... wouldn't have it any other way.

The cast is incredible, and their acting is cutting-edge, since they are all acting in insane ways.

The production value, and camera angles - alright, I take issue with that. Does a movie HAVE TO BE "BLINGED OUT" to be good? Sure, "Mirrors" - great production value, does it make it a good flick? No. "VERSUS" is precisely about how amateur it is! Further, the camerawork is incredible. Take note of the Mexican standoff in the beginning, the camera does a 360 degree turn, while letting us know who does what (and nobody does much of anything). See?

Thing is, this movie isn't meant to be taken seriously. It's meant to be watched in the original Japanese (so as to catch the Green Shirt Yakuza's wierd sounds), with friends (never alone) and with a healthy sense of humor. Savvy?

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True. It sucked. 3/10

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"The camera angles sucked..."

Stop right there. If anybody wants to criticize this film for its lack of story, character development, etc., that's fine. Those aspects of the film clearly were not a priority. But if you're going to bitch about the camera work, then you've lost ALL your credibility.

The truth of the matter is when it comes to shooting style, Ryuhei Kitamura is one of the ballsiest directors in the world. Seriously. There are only two other directors I can think of that even compare to him in this area - Takashi Miike and Timur Bekmambetov.

So what, do you prefer the lame-ass conventional static camera, 2-shot, reaction shot, opposed reaction shot, cookie cutter BS? If so then continue to devour the horses--t Hollywood feeds you and get the hell out of here.

Okay. Now I'm going to do his teeth and cut off his fingers. You might want to leave room.

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don't think you understood the movie, mang.

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This is the worst movie I have ever seen. I cannot believe how poor the story was, the shoddiness of the action sequences etc. Yes, I watched the subtitled director's cut, original Japanese audio, etc. DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE!

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