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Anyone here think the movie is better than the series?


Don't get me wrong I love the series. But this movie exceeded my expectations. When I first saw it, it was a surprise because usually amine movies based on TV shows are lame. In my opinion, this movie is even better than the show and I'm not afraid to say it. In the feature everything just works. Great music, action, good characters, great animation and rhythm. Vincent dare I say is even cooler than Vicious. You can tell they put so much hard work into this movie and did not want to disappoint the fans. I've seen it so many times and still love it to this day.

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I agree, the movie is at least as good as the series. They did do a terrific job with it. :)

I'm not sure I would say it's better though.

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Same, I love watching it over and over again as well so I can't tell you how many times I've seen it. The characters are cool (esp. Electra and Vincent) and the animation is waaaaaaay better than in the series, but the only thing I don't like about the movie is that it misses the emotional mark for me. I think it was meant to have a dramatic finale but it just didn't do it for me. It didn't have much of an emotional impact as the ending of the series did. Don't get me wrong, I found the ending of the movie touching, esp. between Electra and Vincent, but I wasn't depressed for days like I was after the series ended. That's the only flaw I'll point out in the movie lol.

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The animation, time, and effort put into the movie was truly wonderful. I can't imagine if the entire series was as well-drawn and well-animated as the movie. To me, the story of the movie wasn't quite as strong as some of the stories of the series (when compared to the time allocated for each one respectively), but I still enjoyed it quite a bit.

Out of all T.V. shows to have ever been created, Cowboy Bebop has to be one of the top ten -- and that's saying a lot. Real anime fans know how good it can be, but honestly, for a "cartoon," it is pretty amazing that it's comparable to things such as Quantum Leap, Dexter, and Game of Thrones (et cetera).

Overall, the whole "world" (or I should say worlds) of Cowboy Bebop is so well-done. The art direction, the "cinematography," and how well every single story flows is just so amazing. I just can't praise it enough, honestly.

I would say that the movie (which actually takes place between episode 22 and 23 of the series) is right on par with the series itself. Albeit, a better animated and longer "episode," I believe it stays very true to the overall value of Cowboy Bebop itself.

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Don't get me wrong, I really liked the film, but I much prefer the show, as I don't feel that the film provided the same character depth as the show did.

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I don't. I don't think the movie is that well paced.

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I believe that this movie is different and still flawed as the series.

The original anime has a great soundtrack and great visuals, but lacks in story and has often bad dialogues. The self contained episodes are too short to develop anything past a superficial plot and even the main characters are never described but by emotions. There is more cigarette smoking that character developement. We know things about their past, but everything remains shallow.

The movie has an horrid ending for such a long building and climax. And beside Spike (that is the character I like less, after Edward) the other character have close to zero screen time. The story is not bad, but is nothing new and, sadly, keeps the anime trend of "say cool things that make no sense and people will love it anyway".

Cowboy Bebop is mediocrity painted magnificently.

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"has often bad dialogues."

"And beside Spike"

"other character have close to zero screen time."

Nice illustrations of "bad dialogues."

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The movie is nowhere near as good as the series; in fact, I think they missed a huge opportunity with a lackluster story and uneven pacing.

In my opinion, the movie shouldn't have been an extended "session", instead it should have been used as a bigger piece of the puzzle to the main plot and help flesh out Spike's backstory. Hear me out...

- Vicious and Julia should have been integrated into the story; Vicious being integral to the plot. Vincent should be hunting down and interrogating Titan veterans who he feels may also be living in dreams or seeing "butterflies"... Vicious included. Possibly a scene where he guns down members of the Red Dragons in an attempt to get to Vicious shows how formidable he is, so the Dragons put a bounty on him (similar to the way they did to Mao Yenrai in Session #5)... which Spike & Co. jump on (perhaps Vincent could have still let-off the tanker explosion as he makes a habit of detonating nano-machines in the area close to where he murders each veteran). Vincent's larger plot behind all this is to still detonate the nano-machines over a crowded populous which would keep some of the same scenes in-play.

- Additionally, another thing that has always irked me a bit is how Julia knew who Faye was in Session #25, 'The Real Folk Blues'. I think there should be a scene in the movie where Julia is alerted by Shin that Vicious and possibly Spike are targets of an unknown assassin (Vincent) and she should trend on the side of caution. This causes her to actually go looking for Spike... and she comes across Faye, a little drugged and tied-up in Vincent's apartment. She rescues her and learns her name in the process, but when Faye regains her composure she forgets who Julia is; all she remembers is that she was saved by a mysterious stranger.

- I also think we should be given a strong flashback and/or an indication into how Spike lost his eye and why he feels he "sees the past in one eye" instead of just piggy-backing off of Vincent's notion. I know there is the theory that perhaps the movie is just one long dream of his and Spike has seen the butterflies all along (and with Julia in the movie, we should be given some sort of hint that perhaps she sees the butterflies as well), but I think it should all tie together a little better.

- The climax would be a three-way showdown on the new Eiffel Tower between Spike, Vicious, and Vincent where they trade blows - and this results in Spike getting injured, but surviving; Vicious getting injured, but escaping; and Vincent get injured, and dying. I'm not sure if I'd include Electra as a character at all because in the end she was just a weak plot device for Vincent to come-to at the end and abruptly have a change of heart. I mean, the man has tunnel vision the whole movie and then suddenly lets his finger off the trigger and gets sentimental... I don't buy it.

I think this would have given the movie more weight and importance because aside from a few action scenes, flashy set pieces, and a stellar soundtrack, it's largely forgettable to me.

I don't know, just my two cents.


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It's just as good as any of the episodes of the series and is personally one of my all time favorite movies.

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