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What is the main reason that everyone hates this movie?


Was it too predictable? Did it not have enough gore for you? Give me some solid reasons people!

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The movie didn't make sence. maybe if they didn't chop it down so much then it would of at least had an understandable movie.

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And all you can do is write pages of horse dung. Damn, you make up your mind on what you are trying to say.

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1. The movie was boring. Unpredictable, I'll admit. I mean, who could predict that it would suck. I liked how pretty much everyone dies in the end. But you have to get to the last shot of the movie before anything cool like that happens, and then after that shot is the end credits, so really it's just a whole waste. Unpredictable but boring.

it had some nice (few but it's better than having constant chop chop action, that becomes dull and predictive) moments before. The Scene in the the subtrainway was creepy, and while some moments have been seen already, they were "reused" well enough in my opinion.
Besides the movie offered more than soppky moments, it offered the viewer the chance to see al the clues, that fit smoothly together, instaed of some random kill, frenzy action like in boogey man, etc.


2. Audio stingers no longer scare me. When a shadow floats by and the music peaks augmented with some reverbed sound effect, it's ridiculous. And if it's really loud, I jump because it's loud, then I'm pissed at the DVD sound mixer, not because I'm suddenly scared.

well cant be helped.
I agree u can become mire used to it, but if the moment is not too cliche ("sting" nothing happens, and you know you always have to wait for the second one to expect sth)
It's been a while, but Darkness was less predictable, well at least in my memory.


3. When a shadow floats by, the sound effect is loud, and you hear whispering of kids, and I were the one in the room, I would be running and screaming, probably with the intention of defenestrating myself. I wouldn't stand there wondering if my brother were playing a joke on me, despite the silhouettes of like six kids that suddenly vanish into thin air.

Well it's the creepy little kid syndrome (also seen in Ring), known for many years in the Horror genre


4. The doctor's voice reminded me of Antonio Banderas. After the doc was done with his exposition, I'd imitate Antonio: "Let's play." "Pray for mercy from Puss...in boots!" "You kill my father. Prepare to die." That's not Antonio, but the doc reminded me of Inigo too.

well make fun of it.
It's easy to do so, and not ,much of an argument.


5. The doctor was bad. Then he was good. Then he was bad. Make up your mind, are you antagonist or protagonist or just gay? You're worse than the demons, man! Your "Wemblying" scares me more than the phased voices in the darkness!!

well that was sth nice in my opninion, since most people (unlike me ;D) wouldn't have expected him to be the bad guy.
And his actions made sense, since he loved his on, but couldn't kill/ sacrifice him with his own hands, and therefore arranged certin things to make it happen, without his direct involvement.
The thing was he loved his son too much to harm him directly, and it's a common dilemma/ theme in movies, but this time twisted.


6. The father was strange in a psychologically freaky way, I admit. He scared me...more like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest freaky than anything. But where was his accent, huh? And was he choking on like a pill?

well must say , i saw a german dubbed version, so i cant realte to that.


7. The movie was about the house...then it was about the darkness...then it was about the kids...then it was about the eclipse...then it was about the satanic ritual or whatever which was fortunately published in detail in some book at the library which wasn't too hard to find...then it was about the doctor...then it was about the house again...then it's about ghosts that can duplicate people or something...make up your goddamn mind you demons.

Well the plot wasn't that confusing (unlike some japanese movies).
The movie was about the house and it's history, and the children pushed the plot.
They uncover some satanics stuff etc etc the end



8. The camera shaking doesn't scare me, it makes me smile. Silly effect, but cool equipment to create it. http://www.clairmont.com/spec_items/image_shaker.html

well MI3 Bourne etc. also make use of it, so I fail to see, why it shoudl be a bad thing.


9. The undercranked camera effects (stuttering, stop-motion) of an upside-down mom-turned creature on the ceiling moving backwards, and the kids in the hallway stuttering about like morons instead of demons from hell is far more effective in A. The Exorcist (upside down on stairs), B. The Shining (kids in the hallway just standing there...no stuttering effect), C. Bram Stoker's Dracula (dracula backs up into closet darkness), D. Close Encounters of the Third Kind outtakes (alien kids jump around like morons instead of aliens from hell).

Well that's the problem.
Everthing seen before, so you compare it.
But you don't have to reinvent the wheel, sometimes it's enough to use the one, that's there and improve it.


10. The movie made no sense.

wrong. go into more detail if you want a more detailed answer.

11. The studio shelved this film for two years for a reason. You ask them for solid reasons.

Dunno, but it doesn't make movie bad.

12. I'm haunted more by this movie's existence than what this movie is actually about.

few movies scare me, I don' know about you, so I can't say ehich ones scare you.

13. The doctor lives in an off-street apartment complex, but his apartment is a veritable mansion of antediluvian and gothic architecture with stained glass windows and a massive hallway to boot. Nice apartment.

so? what's your point?


14. The eclipse occurred...and nothing else changed except that another pencil (or rather a straw of some kind) was eaten lol.

did u expected some sort of Doomsday?
Eviel Darkness entered our world, it might be not as that exciting, but it's supposed to be subtle.


Is that good? Do you want more?

sure, why not




"I have the higher ground"
"what's that supposed to mean?"

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The thing was he loved his son too much to harm him directly, and it's a common dilemma/ theme in movies, but this time twisted.


I thought the point was that he didn't love his son enough for the ritual to work, that's why he needed someone who did truly love the son to do it for him.

And really.. These are peoples opinions on why they didn't like the movie, you don't need to 'answer' them all

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Ok I definitely agree that this movie's existence is more haunting than the actual movie. Well written. I could not elaborate as much I would like, but you definitely took everything that I could ever possibly think of.

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Damn! I was gonna say just that!

Thanks for saving me some time and effort!

One word....this movie sucks! Ok, I can't count, either.

The shadow zips by in the foreground with the crescendo of thematic music....that got old in like 1992.

The grandfather/doc....I don't know about you, but he was *never* any good in my opinion. The old geezer just sorta creeped me out in a "don't leave him alone in a room with kids" sorta way. He was so creepy, even his voice made my skin crawl, and I LOVED Inigo!

Ya know how you get that weird creepy deep down feeling after you've eaten a half a pizza and drank too many beers and you don't know if you're going to throw up or not? *THAT'S* how this movie felt!

Saturday night Scifi Chan movie with my nephew is a long-standing tradition here. We gave up on this crap after forty-five minutes.

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To "cheerleaderskirtlover" (wow)

1. How could you say that this movie was boring? Boring is There Will Be Blood. The beauty of the film is the way in which it unfolds, leaving you guessing right until the very end. Why would you want to know the ending of the film near the beginning? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of oh i don't know, a plot.

2. "If it's really loud, I jump because it's loud" That's kind of the point. The noise was abrupt and therefore it startled you. That is the point of that type of effect. And if you are really tired of being scared just by the loud noises, turn your TV down.

3. For the most part, only the audience was supposed to be aware of the presence of the kids. The characters in the movies felt the evil presence, but I don't think they actually saw them until the climax. But, in order for the audience to understand the state of mind the characters are in, they needed some sort of physical cue. Showing the kids = the visual cue.

4. I'm glad you lump all Spanish actors into one unidentifiable group.

5. You are retarded. The doctor, aka granddad, was bad the ENTIRE time. The reason he released his granddaughter, Regina, was because he knew she was the one who would eventually spill her fathers blood on the alter. The last thing she said while she was tied up was "I love him [her father]..so much". That's when her grandfather realized that he had to release her so that she could finish the ritual, because the blood had to be spilt by loving hands.

6. The dad didn't have an accent because he only lived in Spain for 6 years. And then he moved to the States with his mom, where he lived for 40 years... come on. And yes, he was like choking on a pill.

7. Apparently you like your movies to have one dimensional, completely shallow plots. All of those elements wove together to create this movie's intense horror and psychological twistedness.

8. No comment, personal preference I suppose.

9. Appreciate this movie's (in my opinion, successful) new take on old tricks.

10. The movie made absolute sense. You are a moron. Or you weren't paying attention. I am not going to explain the plot to you.

11. They probably shelved it for two years because they didn't want to edit it. In order for it to finally be released in the U.S., it had to be hacked at, going from R to barely PG-13. They were probably just trying to avoid the inevitable, and after two years realized it'd be better to show the movie edited in the U.S. than not show it at all.

12. Once again, you are proving yourself to be a moron. There are so many worse movies than this.

13. Good point. But it's not totally unheard of for wealthy people to own whole floors of apartment buildings.. it's called a loft. He was a rich doctor who apparently used his money to decorate his loft in a gothic style.

14. Do you realize the significance of that "straw" (which was really a plastic pen case) being eaten? The mother was going to insert the pen case into the cut in her husband's neck in order to help him breathe, in order to save his life. Sort of like a homemade tracheotomy. And did you miss the last ten minutes of the movie? After the eclipse, the door of hell was opened and the house completely morphed- blood on the floor and walls, among other obvious changes. The whole "opening the door of hell/ritual thing" revolved around the eclipse, so it was more than essential.

That was awful. Please stop. Or rather, keep going so I can keep shooting you down.



Oh god. Oh man. Oh god. Oh man.

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How is loud scary and just because you jump, does not mean it is scary either. It is more annoying with loud noise than being scary, and so sick of people saying it is scary. I rather see violence and gore than sit around hoping something happen that doesn't. This movie I like but love the rated R and Unrated version better. PG-13 ratings just suck when it comes to horror movies. They use jump scares, that are not really scary but annoying and loud flipping noise that just really pisses me more off, than being scary.

Rated R Horror movies are better, no matter the argument.

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Quantity is not quality, boy, many lines don´t mean you are right. 80% of your arguments are absolutely subjective, in the sense that "I´m watching a DVD and the film is not scary because my hot neighbour just came", I could bring down all your *beep* supposed 14 reasons but it´s just a waste of time...

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It had some great visuals and a kinda creepy mood but i have to be able to follow a movie to enjoy it...and this thing was pretty incoherent.

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well I just got done watching it for the 2nd time.
Yea, and I'm still corn-fused...

It was dark, I'll give it that much.
(I wonder if that has anything to do with the title?) anyway...

Who were the people in the picture with the shades on?
Grandma, and Grandpa with stigmatisms?

What exactly was the serpent looking hole in the ground thingie under the floor?
why wasn't that explained in a book from the local neighborhood library as well?

Can there never be a sequel to answer these questions because according to the story line, the world is now over, we're all living in hell now without any lights?

And common was he choking on a pill, thats the best the writers could come up with to cut his throat?

The Ring, the Grudge, Darkness, and old Metallica, and Tool videos, OK I've had enough stop motion jerkiness for the year now.

It just started to many plot twists, without really giving them good answers by the time it ended.

I want a secquel just to answer all these questions I have now.

"X"

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The "stop motion jerkiness" the previous poster mentioned is driving me crazy too. Whats the point? It worked well when i first saw it used in "NYPD Blue" as it lent kind of a documentary style you-are-there feel to a scene (even though that show sometimes gave me headaches from the jumpy camera). But why does every director find it necessary now? Especially a piece o crap like this movie.

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Reasons this movie sucked:

1. The entire family resembled more of a roommate atmosphere. I mean, the mother was a *beep* weird ass that treated her kids like either *beep* or old drug buddies and the way she interacted with her husband was just retarded, not the mention that she can't act her way out of a paper bag.

2. "Open this....FREAKING door!" That line alone made me sick, like he was trying so hard to either convince the audience that he was spooky or trying REALLY hard not to say *beep* and failing miserably.

3. There is ABSOLUTELY NO BACKGROUND ON ANYTHING. The house is just a stupid old house that was restored and sold to this dysfunctional, anal retentive family.

4. The family doctor (the husband's father) was pitiful, his acting sucked and it seemed like HE needed to be on medication.

5. At the end, how can the house play tricks on the kids minds and take them away in a imaginary car that's far away from the house? I mean, what in the hell was this director thinking even considering trying to film this atrocious nightmare?

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What's he gonna tell you, "I'm dead?" - Zeus in "Die Hard With a Vengeance."

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1. The entire family resembled more of a roommate atmosphere. I mean, the mother was a *beep* weird ass that treated her kids like either *beep* or old drug buddies and the way she interacted with her husband was just retarded, not the mention that she can't act her way out of a paper bag.

So a disfunctional family?
Never seen one bfore in a movie or in real life?


2. "Open this....FREAKING door!" That line alone made me sick, like he was trying so hard to either convince the audience that he was spooky or trying REALLY hard not to say *beep* and failing miserably.

well it hought it was suspenseful, but that's just me.


3. There is ABSOLUTELY NO BACKGROUND ON ANYTHING. The house is just a stupid old house that was restored and sold to this dysfunctional, anal retentive family.

Do these things have to be built on a indian graveyard, or some witch burning, etc. to be of any evil use?
can't find in my HOWTO EVIL book.


4. The family doctor (the husband's father) was pitiful, his acting sucked and it seemed like HE needed to be on medication.

well your opnion.


5. At the end, how can the house play tricks on the kids minds and take them away in a imaginary car that's far away from the house? I mean, what in the hell was this director thinking even considering trying to film this atrocious nightmare?

How does this girl in the Ring calls her victims via Phone?
wouldn't a mail be enough?
Can't she simply appear on the screen?
How does NEO on Matrix 3 do the exploding Robots trick?
These kind of movie don't work that way.


"I have the higher ground"
"what's that supposed to mean?"

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Point no 2, in the original uncut version, he does actually say Fu***** door, he only says freaking in the US release version. They infact changed and chopped ALOT out of this movie =/

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the only things i didnt get were the house tricking them into thinking they werre leaving but they werent??? I mean, at what point did she turn the light off? maybe i just missed that, i didnt really get that part

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is the world over? or is just that house messed up??

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"5. The doctor was bad. Then he was good. Then he was bad. Make up your mind, are you antagonist or protagonist or just gay? You're worse than the demons, man! Your "Wemblying" scares me more than the phased voices in the darkness!!"


i see you didn't get this. he was bad all along. anna said "mom would never kill my father" or sth like that, then she started whispering "Dad, i love you so much" and grandpa discovered that SHE could kill her father, that's why he let her go. don't you remeber he was saYING 'NOW IT'S YOUR TURN"


the movie did make sense, it was all just strange. and did the world come to an end? I don't think grandpa said anything about the world ending, something was supposed to be born - the devil?

and this is where the omen comes in :)



"It's Joooohnny!!!"
(I'm a woman....)

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Badly acted, directed and written.

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i thought that it was a really intense film, and the actors did really well. if you don't like it, you are a part of the kkk.

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two words...

THE ENDING

the ending spoiled the whole movie for me. it was just boring. i fell asleep in he movie theater. i was just disappointed.

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i thought the unrated DVD version was better than the PG-13. i saw the Pg-13 one in theaters and didn't like it that much, but i loved the unrated one.

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How about the movie made zero sense! Some effects and dark scenes before you even know what youre supposed to be scared of. I could not tell you what this movie is even about!

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1. The movie was mindnumbingly boring
2. It kept building up to some suspenseful/scary event only to let everyone down.
3. It easily made my top 5 list of worst movies I have ever seen

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Ok I can kind of see some of the potential of this movie, but the people in the editing room must have been really bored because they obviously just threw random stuff together without adding in any explanation. Most of the actors in it were good, and I guess the plot could have been good if there was more of it, and less pointless rain every day. It was advertised as a scary movie and wasn't scary at all- when the demon thing first appeared everybody in the theatre laughed. In other words, the main reason I hate it is because I kept thinking "Why" the entire movie... why is all this happening, why am I watching this, etc. I hate it when filmmakers are too lazy to give an audience the answers they need...so that's why I think this is the worst movie I've ever seen. Silent Hill reminded me of this, except it was better... barely.

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It was boring and made no sense for me... The darkness took them, so what? The final moments of the movie was predictable and childish.

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