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Shackleton For The Big Screen?



I have been a big fan of the Shackleton story since I first heard it in the 1980's. I have always thought it would make a great movie. I was a little disappointed when the movie as a MOW.

I was just wonder how people think an Endurance story would do if produced well and destributed to theaters.

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I think it would translate wonderfully. For some reason I envision Mel Gibson being able to pull this off to great effect... maybe and act-and-direct project like Braveheart. Russell Crowe is also a strong choice to play Shackleton.

The story is so strong, if they could get a budget and not try to Hollywood up the screenplay too much it could be fantastic.

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Actually, Wolfgang Peterson "Das Boot fame" was working on this project for many years. He wanted Mel Gibson or Russell Crowe to be billed as Shackleton. I believe the wind left his sails when Shackleton mania hit in the late ninetees and all the films (George Butler's Imax and documentary, and this movie)came out at once.

I think he would be a fine choice for directing this project, as I think he'd do a better job with this film. The ideal feature should focus on the expedition away from England. Cutting back to home (though of historic interest) made this production drag.

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Mel Gibson
Russell Crowe
I thought you wanted a GOOD Actor.You may as well pick Danny Devito at least he would get on better with the Penguins

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The Butler documentary was good enough for me, I hate big Hollywoodized productions messing with the real story. I had nigher expectations with the BBC one but though Branaugh was nicely cast (he looked very much like Shack) you hit the nail on the head about the production- not enough time spent on the ice and way too much at the beginning wasted with Shackleton begging for money from rich widows and in boardrooms! Yawn and pointless. A film should just cut to the chase and give us a brief background on that particular stuff. The BBC production did a poor job conveying the long amount of time the shipwrecked crew spent on the ice and on Elephant Island before rescue (over a year) and the individual important crew members were given little screen time to flesh them out. This story to be told right cries out for a 10 hour-type miniseries approach and much more of a budget than BBC/Channel 4 doled out. Read the books!! Caroline Alexander's for one, to get a much fuller appreciation of this incredible story and the people who endured it. Admire Frank Hurley's stunning photographs documenting the expedition. Expedition photographer Hurley was given short shrift as well in the BBC series. Find a copy of Hurley's movie footage (South?) released by Milestone I believe in the late 90s. Amazing to see moving images of our heroes living that adventure!

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If you want to try to NOT "Hollywood up" a movie, then Mel Gibson should be your last choice.




Signatures?.........we don't need no stinking signatures!

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Russel Crowe would be a great Shackleton

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Mel Gibson play an English hero? - I don't think Mel is capable of seeing the English in an Human light. I'm surprised he didn't blame us for Jesus being crucified!

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Very true. Mel is pathologically anti-English.. he would probably write Shackleton as a 'typical' English bully. In the same way that he altered a lot of major facts in 'Braveheart', in Mel's Shackleton film, Sir E would sail back to England smoking a big cigar and laughing, while it is left to the Americans to rescue the men from Elephant Island.

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This would be a great movie to be seen on the Big Screen. I think the only way to truly do this movie and story justice would be via big budget, meaning, a top director like Ron Howard and actor like Russell Crowe. I'm sure someone somewhere is working out the details to produce such a project and we definately will see it on the big screen one day.

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Ernest Shackleton was actually born in Ireland

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Well said!!!!Shackleton was born in Kilkee, County Kildare, Ireland..Although he left at a young age he always considered himself to be Irish and not English.

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But wouldn't Holywood feel obliged to change the story ... eating the dogs! No way ... not actually make it across the Antarctic continent ... don't think so ... a mistress ... goodness gratious no ... an Aussie as the great photograper of the trip ... fat chance ... the ship being lost ... too sad ... no American flag to be seen ... now just hang on there ... ah yes, make the Canadian an American that's it.

Ok I got a little silly there but when does Hollywood ever make an authentic historical film ... does anyone know of one ... I'm trying to think of one but can't off hand. Maybe Clint Eastwood's new one about the blokes who raised the flag on Iwogima (Sorry about that spelling!). "All the Presidents Men" maybe. It is rare.

"Everything is safe till it goes wrong" - Joe Simpson, "Touching the Void" - book only.

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Any authentic/accurate historical film is called a documentary! Such as Burns' The Civil War. Or Butler's Shackleton films. You know as well as I do that it's easier said than done dramatizing actual historical events and keeping faithful to those events without boring or confusing the audience, etc. I've read that Zulu (a British production about one of its most storied-and studied- military engagements) wasn't entirely accurate with some of the actual events and people involved. It's easy to pick on Hollywood since it has turned out so many films seen by so many people worldwide, but I imagine all countries take some license when dramatizing real events or else you'd be watching dull history lessons. Eastwood's Flag of Our Fathers about Iwo Jima, at least with the military aspect of the month-long battle, probably was very accurate due to how well-studied it is and there are still some vets alive to verify any mistakes, not to mention all the filmed and oral histories given by Iwo Jima vets and others.

Of course it's based on a best-selling book about the author's father (one of the famous flag-raisers) and his co-flag-raisers. Obviously making a film about something that happened 500 or 1000 years ago gives you much more leeway retelling it as everyone involved is long gone.

I don't mind if Hollywood or anyone else spices up a true story (within reason) as long as it doesn't totally make a mockery of the actual timeline of events or gives Hitler a new vice-chancellor or something like that. (<:

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Look, Branagh was a wonderful Shackleton. He looked the part, and portrayed the man very accurately. What's all this about Mel Gibson and Russel Crowe? Crowe, I can understand, if he plays the part somewhat in the vein of his Jack Aubrey from Master and Commander, but Gibson? Good god, what happened? Run out of British Actors yet? Or good American actors?

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This talk about a Shackleton major motion picture is just talk and has been rumored for years- ever since Caroline Alexander's 1998 book The Endurance almost single-handedly restarted Shackleton-mania for this era. I keep an eye and ear out for most things involving Shackleton and I haven't heard a whimper about any of these purported projects coming to fruitation. A lot of the wind has died down since the peak of Shackleton-mania nearly a decade ago. I'm not saying a film won't be made someday but it doesn't look to be with the actors and directors frequently mentioned in the past including Crowe, Gibson and director Wolfgang Petersen of Das Boot and The Perfect Storm fame. I had heard a few years ago of at least one syndicate for sure launching a deepwater search a la the Titanic for the remains of The Endurance but news of that has been almost non-existent. Another team led by Robert Ballard had been interested but last I heard a few years ago they dropped out- Ballard may have had other commitments or the task was just too much. If any group does go ahead with it they won't have an easy time operating at the 2 mile-deep depths and ice-choked waters off Antarctica- and what they find might be not worth the effort. Some speculation is expedition photographer Hurley MAY not have destroyed all of his plate-glass negatives sealed in lead-lined cases and if found intact (not likely) would fetch a pretty penny or two at auction. In addition I would suspect any item identifiable as from a ship as famous as the Endurance would be priceless.

Anyway, as far as Branagh goes, he certainly looked the part in the British TV production and did well enough but I thought the film was pretty lacking in many ways. It was historically accurate but didn't elicit much excitement from me. A good workmanlike effort. The story deserves more time devoted to it- in a Band of Brothers type length for starters, higher production values than Channel 4 or BBC can give, and for god sakes don't waste the audience's time on so much back story showing Shackleton begging for financial backing from rich widows and/or in boardrooms- get out on the ship, ice and save all that for a very brief synopsis if at all. The crew members including important ones like Tom Crean and especially photographer Frank Hurley weren't devoted enough time to- which is one of the major limiting factors in a 2-4 hour film treatment of course. A very poor job was done in conveying how long the men were actually languishing on the ice on the trapped Endurance and after it had sunk, or sailing to Elephant Island on their two lifeboats. It was easily over a year+. This fantastic story deserves a fuller treatment, though I thought the Butler IMAX and PBS docs were very well done, and of course all the literature devoted to the epic adventure over the years fills an important niche. Any "Hollywood" production gives me the willies on how they will find ways to mess with the story- but if someone can put together something close to what Band of Brothers did to WW2 films I'd be quite happy!

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Chippy should be played by Brendan Gleeson and Christian Bale would make a great Shackleton.

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I had once submitted a screenplay to an agent in Hollywood about the expedition, intending it to reach Wolfgang Peterson's desk, if the agent had interest. One of the suggestions I recieved from this person was to spice it up by having the stowaway, Blackboro, be a GIRL! It might create a "love interest" for one of the crew members, this person believed. I couldn't believe it - and had no interest in Hollywoodizing the story, as it already was strong on its historic merits. Wolfgang proved that a tense, and sometimes very grim story can show a range of human drama (in Das Boot) without having to resort to cheap and predictable elements. He still would be been the perfect choice for the job - I hope that one day he will continue the endeavor.

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Branagh would hav been the best Shackleton a director would want. Im still to see this TV film, but I guess it is at least, decent.

No opposition to Crowe, whatsoever.

Gibson is a good director, although he doesnt like the english, and the jews, and so on. But as an actor I wouldnt see him as Shack.

Denzel would make the film popular in the US, but wouldnt be accurate enough...

Shack was born in Ireland, yes, but at that point, if Im correct, it was still part of United Kingdom, wasnt it? Thats why he is considered a british hero, and not simply an irish one.

For director, anyone would be better than Ron Howard, I say...

Maybe Nolan, or Martin Campbell, if the film goes commercial.

There are plenty of other choices.



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Branagh was well-cast both in looks and acting ability as Shackleton in the BBC Channel 4 TV movie. The TV movie is decent enough but surely can't hold a candle to the documentaries (and books) done about the Endurance expedition over the years. Who brought up Denzel Washington playing Shack? OMG too funny. Nolan and Campbell are action directors and if one knows anything about what happened on polar expeditions they were anything BUT fast-moving Batman or Bond pictures. No to do this right it has to be much more of a drama and the long amount of time that these expeditions took place over should be emphasized, as that was a key ingredient- these men were ice-bound on a ship for months, spent days trudging on the snow and ice, marooned on a forbidding Antarctic island for months while some of the party sailed for almost 2 weeks 800 miles across open ocean seeking help etc etc.

I don't think short attention span-dominated current audiences could stomach or appreciate a long epic movie that this actual amazing event calls for, to be anywhere near faithful to it.

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I brought up Denzel!

Amazingly enough, he already played the Prince of Castella(if Im not mistaken) in Much Ado About Nothing!

half-jap Keanu Reeves played his brother...

So it is possible...

Anything is possible these days... The best rapper in the world is white, and the ebst golf player ever is black...

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