Plot hole? Prove me wrong.


I love this movie, however i think i found a hole. they knew two of the three numbers on the safe. wouldn't it have taken very little time to try all the other numbers to find the last one? less than three hours for sure.

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The safe might have had some kind of protection to prevent people from guessing, similar to the design of ATM machines. Where if you enter the code wrong 5 or more times, it will eat up the card or something.

Same with the safe, if they tried the wrong code 5 times, the safe would lock up for 24 hours or something.

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possible, however the safe doesn't look very hi-tech to me.

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Yeah, there's no way with that type of safe ...


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Not really a plot hole but if they decided to do that I'd think that would be a kind of bad excuse just to move on. The alternative helps keep it more realistic.

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I thought of that too but what they also dont know is how many times to turn the dial for the third number. That could have taken them all night to guess.

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Good one. I thought that the turns were universal and only the numbers change but i may very well be Wrong.

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> That could have taken them all night to guess.

It shouldn't have. They could probably have figured out how many turns before the last digit from looking at the film.

Also, they could have quickly narrowed down the range of the final digit. I mean, you never see combinations like 27-44-44 (i.e., there are not duplicates). So, the range for final number would start about 10% of the dial past 44 and extend to maybe 80% of the way 'round.

Figuring maybe 50 possible digits on the dial, that leaves about 37 choices for the final digit. Any goober could try about four of the possible combinations in a minute. Therefore, they should be in the safe within ten minutes.

Plus, from reviewing the film with a stop watch, they could probably have narrowed the last digit down to about ten possible digits.

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Not a plot hole at all, because you are absolutely right. But this bunch of numbknobs would not figure that out. The point supports the premise.

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Good point. I was also thinking that if they see the dial before the guy does the combination, wouldn't the dial be at the last number. Unless he spins it after opening it. But I mean they filmed him a bunch of times, if the initial state of the dial is the same every time, then that's probably the last number.

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If they had the brain power to devise that scenario, they also could have figured out that a drilling a hole in a safe with a hand drill was *not* genius!

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yeah but they are meant to be idiots, not the smartest bunch of people.

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I thought of that, too. Maybe they were just showing how stupid these guys really were?

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most people here are smarter than that lt, hence we are here on the net debating the finers points of a film.. rather then mugging people or puling of heists...

so i say he average imdb goer is a 100 times smarter than the robbers...

now thats why i LOVE oceans films... the guys are smart as hell... and cool too



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