After watching this movie and seeing the telephone conversation between Bob and his WIFE Kelly, I have to wonder, why would Bob even bother to get married? The vow is "forsaking all others" but he was still too attached to Ebony. He even acted like she was the bad guy for thinking he should be there for his family.
shareprehaps it's because he felt sorry for her, he was afraid for her soul ir liked the perks his lifestyle gave them. or hge still could have been in love with the person ebony once was and wanted to see it once more
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That's my point. He was still in live with Ebony, he never should have gotten married to someone else.
shareWhat was he supposed to do? Wait around for Ebony? That would've been pathetic and sad. Love was there but the timing was never right. That's life and it happens all the time.
shareHe was still putting Ebony before his wife and his son with his wife. And even acted like his wife was wrong for thinking he should be there for her and their sick son. The vow is "forsaking all others", not "forsaking your wife for your ex".
shareFrom someone whose been there...me and my ex boyfriend ended up still friends and we both moved on to newer relationships. True we were once in love but u can fall in love again. It happens alot ~ most ppl see it with those who lose a love one then get reinvolved but then there are those like Bob and Ebony (for me she really didnt love him back) but yet he did have a love for her. But he was able to move on (which was a smart move) as another poster stated 'What was he going to do ... wait for Ebony?'
shareThe point is he didn't really move on. He put his wife and son aside for Ebony. That was why his wife was upset, she was telling him the she, his wife needed him, and his son needed him, yet he chose to be there for Ebony instead. That's why I ask why bother marrying someone if he knew that Ebony would remain first priority in his life anyway?
shareMaybe because even though he was still in love with Ebony, he realized that she didn't love him and had to find another relationship.
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But then he should have told any woman he was with that no matter what, Ebony would always come first in his life. My point is that it was very unfair to his wife, and yet he acted like she was the "bad guy" for thinking he should be there for her and their child.
shareI thought the same thing too. He seemed to have just settled for someone else and maintained a connection to who he was really hung up on, which isn't completely moving on.
shareExactly. It was pretty clear that he was still in love with Ebony - and that he had put her first, before his wife and son. And from the way it sounded, it was always that way.
shareEbony was right in a sense that Bob was not a doctor. Going to his son would not help him medically. Also, his wife should not have married a man who would be away on business the majority of the time. It is quality time. Not quantity time. She should have saved herself for a man with a desk job who would be off every night at 5:00 pm, if she was that needy. Her ill son Tim made a good excuse for her clingy and demanding behavior.
shareSo, thinking that a man should put his wife and sick child before a woman that did not care about him made her "clingy and demanding"? I am sure she knew he would be away on business a lot, but probably did not that he was still so emotionally attached to Ebony. In fact, I am guessing she never even knew they had been a couple.
In the dream sequence (or however you want to interpret the "spirit visits" about the future) Bob is crying that he was not there when his son died. I am guessing that it probably would have been something like this:
His wife (forgot her name ) called and told him he was in the hospital, and told him the doctors said there was nothing more they could do, that yes, he was going to die, and Bob said "I have to be here for Ebony!"
His wife got the bad end of the deal all around. She was basically a single mother with a son who had a deadbeat father. (It did seem they were having financial problems, since again his paycheck was late. Of course, he never could quit that job and get another one, he would be away from Ebony.)
It was hard enough for Bob to be away from his wife and sick son when they needed him the most. His wife's attitude didn't help the situation when Bob felt bad enough and helpless as it was. She sounded like she was even considering divorce if he didn't get back in time for Christmas. Sounded pretty demanding to me. But, she was right about Ebony not being generous like Bob said she was. Ebony was greedy and selfish. He never got over Ebony and was still attached to her or else he would have quit and found another job years before.
shareAnd that is my whole point. If he knew that he was still that attached to Ebony, he really had no business getting married. He could have dated, but kept it casual/sex only, whatever. But don't go and get married, then put your wife and child on "back burner" status because you are truly devoted to someone else.
shareI do think Bob should put his wife and son before Ebony.
But I do not think it was as easy as "he should quit his job or risk losing his job". His son was ill and his family needed money to pay for medical bills, a roof over their head, and food for his family. Lets face it, life is not cheap, espeically with a family memember that is ill.
Well, it didn't look like working for Ebony was helping him pay any of the bills. I believe there was also reference to him not even getting paid at times.
Well, it didn't look like working for Ebony was helping him pay any of the bills. I believe there was also reference to him not even getting paid at times.
He could have gotten a different job. People change jobs all the time. From the sound of it, I don't think she was giving him medical benefits either, yet he made it sound like he owed her the world just for having a lousy job and being treated like dirt by her.
The bottom line is that he was clearly not over her, he still had deep feelings for her, and should never have gotten married knowing that. Or at least let his wife know that Ebony would always be first with him, then let her decide if she wanted to live that life before marrying and having a child together.
I think people are being harsh- if it's staying somewhat true to the story, he was the ONLY provider, and I'm sure that entails health insurance, so he couldn't leave. If he got fired there would be no way to provide for their son's medical benefits until he found another job, and whose to say he'd get the same pay and benefits if he went somewhere else? And what if he didn't find a job for months- do you honestly think Ebony would have given him a good reference?
shareFrom the sound of it, it did not sound like the pay was that great, or that there was much in the way of medical coverage anyway. And he never really said "Honey, the medical at this job is covering it all" or anything like that. It was more like "Ebony needs me" and things to that affect.
shareWhat's the point of starting a discussion you already have an answer for? You've made the SAME argument for the last 6 years. This was a pretty annoying discussion to read. It was you against anyone else who had a different opinion than yours.
shareWhat is the point of your post? Assuming there is one.
Funny thing is, you had the option to read it or not read it. Yet, you chose to read it.
Funny thing, you could have made your point and let others have theirs, yet, instead, you'd rather have the LAST WORD. *rolls eyes*
shareLMAO - do you feel better about yourself and your life now? I do pity people like you. It must be such a sad life to have to do things like this to feel better about yourself.
Welcome to the "ignore" list. I only discuss things with people who understand the concept of a discussion board.
See what I mean? -Last word! ...I'm sure others who waste their time on this discussion topic will regret having read it, hoping someone would have something new to offer instead of you always wanting the last word. Learn a bit of humility and listen to what other people have to say for a change. It might be enlightening.
shareHe cared more about Ebony than his wife and dying son, that was as clear as day.
shareThat was my point. Even when Ebony was seeing "Christmas Future" he was crying (oh boo-hoo) how he wasn't there when he died. I can just hear the dialogue:
Kelly (that was the wife's name, right?): I need you to come here NOW
Bob: But I have to be here for Ebony!
Kelly: Bob, our son is in a coma, the doctors say he is not coming out of it...
Bob: I understand that, but Ebony needs me. I'll be there when I can.
Kelly: He might not make it that long.
Bob: I have to make a choice here, and Ebony is sooooooooo important to me.