If Bush gets re-elected...
Heaven help us if we have four more years of this man, but if that's the case bring back That's My Bush!
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George dub-ya has as much chance of getting back into office as Fox coming up with a sucessful reality show.
So I guess he's getting reelected then since AMERICAN IDOL is a success
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Fox didn't come up with American Idol.... they stole it off British TV and just because it's successful don't mean its good.
For God's sake it gave is Garth Gates. Gotta love Simon Cowell tho!
Actually FOX didn't exactly "steal" it. The same people that produce the Brigish version make the American one. There's versions all over the place (which is what WORLD IDOL was. BIG BROGHER is a hit for CBS, but has incarnations all over too.
FOX was just smart enough to take the offer to show AI. They may not have came up with the idea, but they were smart enough to show it
The only thing to live for is today--Joey Ramone
plus no one said they like american idol, just that its successful
sharesadly, there is a chance for re-election. there are far too many crazy religious people supporting him. wasn't the theme song to that show the best?
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Never! I refuse to admit defeat!! I'm rallying the troops!! That's right, tell your ma's and pa's, tell your friends, tell your neighbors, tell random strangers!!! VOTE KERRY!!!! If we all get out there to the polls we can do this. We must do this... I can't afford to move to Canada, so lets win this thing!!!
~Kaitlyn
Errr.... Kerry sucks.
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...and Bush doesn't?
"I am a dreamer. I need to dream..."
Thats right! Good job on analyzation! *Boot to the head!*
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The only reason I asked was because I just couldn't believe that anyone would be retarded enough to actually think that Bush is a good president. I mean, i can accept if you dislike both Kerry and Bush, but saying that Bush is better than anyone else is pure nonsense. GWB is the WORST president in American history. You need to get your head checked. I was thinking of retaliating to your *boot to my head*, but after making clear your choice of presidential candidate i figured you've suffered enough brain damage already.
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Well actually, I would say that William Henry Harrison would be the worst. Ever heard of him? Jimmy Carter is a close second. Carter lost to Reagan by 8 Million votes. Are you saying that all those people are wrong? And one more thing - If people like you were in power, Saddam Hussein would still be in power.
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"Carter lost to Reagan by 8 Million votes. Are you saying that all those people are wrong?"
Well, we'll just see how badly Bush loses to Kerry. Harrison and Carter may have been bad presidents, but at least they weren't retards like Dubya. The man makes Dan Quayle look like Einstein.
The UN and most of the world was against the Iraqi invasion. Even in the countries that joined the coalition, there were/are fierce protests by the people. In your own words, "Are you saying that all those people are wrong?". Or perhaps you're arrogant enough to think that the opinion of the rest of the world doesn't matter.
"If people like you were in power, Saddam Hussein would still be in power."
Two things. Firstly, it seems, especially from the Iraqi point of view, that nothing much has really changed even with Saddam gone. Conditions are only marginally better, and for some Iraqis only.
And secondly, you think Bush invaded Iraq purely for humanitarian reasons? Bush invaded Iraq for purely selfish reasons, to prove to himself and to everyone that he could be a good president, that he could change the world, that he's not an idiot. The man is insecure and has every reason to be. What would you expect from a guy who's been a chronic alcoholic, who constantly makes a fool of himself publicly and who was also a mediocre student in an ivy league university that accepted him only because of his father's connections and influence. He is his father's shadow. He is "the loser that became a president". There could also be other reasons why Dubya went to war with Iraq. Let's see: To boost the American economy? To attempt to steal Iraqi oil? All of the above?
The Iraqi war is a failure. Let's look at the facts. No WMDs have been found to date, i doubt they ever will and you're an idiot if you're still clinging to hopes that they will be. More and more people are starting to believe that this WMD bullsh*t was concocted just as an excuse to invade Iraq. Either that or the powers that be are a bunch of dumb f*cks who screwed up. Iraq is now in chaos and disarray. American and coalition soldiers are dying by the hundreds. It's Vietnam all over again. All of this thanks to Dubya. Tell me, what good has come out of it?
Firstly, I read this post because I'm not really sure who I'm going to vote for, but I'm not really impressed by your argument.
First, didn't Harrison give his inauguration in freezing weather which caused him to get pneumonia and die? I wouldn't call that less retarded. Oh, and making fun of the opposition is a very bad way to begin a rebuttal. It makes it seem more like a shouting match than a ligitimate argument.
I was with you on the UN being against the Iraqi invasion, but the fact that people protested it doesn't help. In my experience, I've never met a protester that was worthy of listening to (i.e. "Abortion kills children" on a protester's sign).
The consequences of being a democracy are rarely seen this early, so the conditions of Iraq shouldn't be brought into question for another 50 years or so.
I can't say for sure that Bush's reasons were humanitarian or selfish. And I would hope that Bush can't make these decisions by himself. There's still the whole DoD thing, right? I'm guessing 60% or so was for humanitarian purposes though. I agree in a sense that Bush Jr. is in his father's shadow, but I don't think he wakes up every morning saying, "What can I do to not be like my father?"
I agree that there won't be any WMD found. So anyone who said we were invading Iraq because of WMDs were either guessing or seriously misinformed. And it is NOT Vietnam all over again. I can guarentee that. Robin Williams will not be making "Good Morning, Iraq"
So I agree with 2 out of 5 arguments, but the overall tone of the argument was very poor. It seems like you are trying to convince people already voting for Kerry to vote for Kerry. Either that or you just wanted to bash Bush (I hope not the latter). If you do the Iraq war argument again, you should find information on other countries that have had dictatorships overthrown (I'm thinking of Japan, but that probably wouldn't help your argument).
Well, I'm done now. Again, this really isn't about bashing you. I really just wanted to point out that your argument doesn't really do much to change people's minds.
"First, didn't Harrison give his inauguration in freezing weather which caused him to get pneumonia and die? I wouldn't call that less retarded."
I agree it may have been one stupid unfortunate mistake that cost him his life. But at least the man wasn't a blithering buffoon like Bush is. And I really don't see how it's possible for Harrison to be the worst president in history when the man was only in office for a month? Sure, he gave the Indians hell and that's bad, but that was before he was in office so it doesn't count.
"but the fact that people protested it doesn't help. In my experience, I've never met a protester that was worthy of listening to"
Are you saying that the voice of those who protest should not be heard? Just because you stereotype and label all of them as being unworthy? Protesters represent the voice of the people to the government. They represent democracy. They let the government know what they (the government) are doing wrong. Do not underestimate and belittle their voice.
"The consequences of being a democracy are rarely seen this early, so the conditions of Iraq shouldn't be brought into question for another 50 years or so."
That may be true. But the transition to democracy could have been handled better if the UN was given the primary role in facilitating it. But no, America had to have full control so it can take most of the "heroic" credit and get the best of the rebuilding contracts and have full control over the oil. You see, what most Americans don't seem to fully understand is that most middle easterners, including Iraqis, don't like America in the first place, which is understandable for reasons I won't go into here. And as much as they hate Saddam, some of them would rather have Saddam still in power than the US. That's why there's still civil unrest in Iraq, and Bush the fool assumed he would get a heroes welcome by all Iraqis when he ousted Saddam. Everyone else knew this and its the reason why most nations were pushing for the UN to take the main administrative role.
"And I would hope that Bush can't make these decisions by himself. There's still the whole DoD thing, right?"
And just who do you think is the commander-in-chief of the US military?
"I'm guessing 60% or so was for humanitarian purposes though."
No, 100% of it was for "Bush"-erian purposes. Bush himself may have wanted to believe that it's for humanitarian purposes, but no it was really for himself. It was so he could feel good about being a hero. Well now it's blown up in his face. And i'm still not entirely convinced it wasn't a stunt to boost the American economy or an attempt to steal Iraqi oil.
"And it is NOT Vietnam all over again."
It may not be the same scale as Vietnam, but it's DEFINITELY the same principle. The same mistakes were repeated. And who's to say it may not escalate to that (Vietnam) if things aren't done to rectify the situation?
"It seems like you are trying to convince people already voting for Kerry to vote for Kerry."
Honestly, I can't say for sure that Kerry would make a better president than Bush. You can't judge a presidential candidate by what he says during his election campaign (we all know how politicians are). But what I do know is that Bush has failed as a President, for the reasons stated above and in previous posts. And I say, take a chance on someone else. In this case, the known devil ISN'T the safer choice. No, the issue here isn't Bush vs Kerry. It's ALL about Bush. Bush and his blunders.
"Either that or you just wanted to bash Bush (I hope not the latter)."
Yes, I was trying to bash Bush and, as far as I am concerned, it's for a deservingly good reason, looking at the mess he's made during his term.
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Sorry, but I fail to see how Bush has "failed" as a president.
I have a much better career going now than I did under that traitorous baffoon Clinton, scores of Terrorists have been "dealt with", our enemies are hiding in caves, I'm paying a lower percentage in taxes (and I'm far from being considered 'rich'", I'm paying about 10 cents less per gallon of gas than I did the summers of 99 and 00....so...tell me again how he has "failed" as a President, because I'm sure not seeing it.
John Kerry? Please. I'd vote for the Domino's Pizza "Noid" character before I'd vote for Hanoi John, and the "Noid" isn't even a real person.
I know this might be a bit long for you to keep attention to but I will know if you read it or not. If you reply without reading this it only proves me to be right and you to be stupid.
"I have a much better career going now than I did under that traitorous baffoon Clinton, scores of Terrorists have been "dealt with", our enemies are hiding in caves"
First how is Clinton "traitorous" and secondly didn't Bush put forth the same anti-terrorism efforts (or rather LACK OF) as Clinton until 9/11 happened? Yes he did, kthx. Whats funny is that Clinton had such a high approval rating when he left office if it wasn't for the "FDR rule" he could of been elected again. Sorry but a man comitting adultery doesn't make him a traitor, this isn't Iran.
Plus hoards of people have far worse careers (if any at all) than before. But i guess since you seem to be ok everyone else has to be right? Since you only care about yourself. Thats why all the tech people have great jobs right for example right? Also i seem to remember countless people making it big out of nowhere in like 1998 like Qualcomm and such, nothing like that happens now! I guess its also why when I call Comcast for tech support i get Indians i can't understand as well and when states outsource their welfare offices because they have no money... almost makes me think this is a joke post.
Seriously, get a job as the next Goebells please. Senseless near fascist right wing posts like this only make the republican party look like what the liberal democrats want everyone to see it as, which is the next nazi regime. Thank god most republicans aren't pure morons, like you.
BTW whats the point in paying lower taxes if a majority of people in this country are losing out in life because of it? Shouldn't we want to pay our money to help other people in this country with things like health care or VETERNS BENEFITS. Afterall Bush is supposed to be supporting the troops right? Guess he doesn't support them after they leave the military. GJ to the real traitor because my father and his friends can't get into the VA now because of this person.
"I'm paying about 10 cents less per gallon of gas than I did the summers of 99 and 00"
Everyone knows thats bs. Completely nullifys everything you say as ramblings of an idiot. Almost makes your post look like a joke post. Gas prices are called records for a reason you know.
Whats funny in the beginning of writing this i could of cared less about the topic and was even minded, but toward the end your stupidity gradually angered me and i had to flame you, sorry. Even edited my post in kind! Dont you feel special!? I'm not a "liberal" just because i'm flaming you i'm really a moderate but its ultra-liberals and ultra-conservaties(you) that are the cause of all the problems in this country and all countries in the world and they are going to bring the downfall of society one way or the other if they gain control. (we saw what happened when the ultra-right gained control in World War 2)
BTW Bush has failed as president because his popularity is slipping by the month. Besides the fact that the lower taxes is causing cuts in social projects that people worry a lot about. Also my dad for example has a lot of friends who are die hard republicans that wont vote for Kerry but hate Bush enough to not vote at all. Also dont forget the fact that Afganistan is a failure and Bush should of focsed on that in the first place rather than seething for Iraq. Is al-qaida in Iraq? NO! Is Afghanistan highly unstable with many seperatist warlords still vying for control? YES! Are scores of terrorists being delt with AS YOU SAID? NOPE! A few thousand AT MOST is not scores. IS AL-QAIDA GAINING RECORD AMOUNTS OF MEMBERS (FAR more than they lose, its a fact the only counter can be a lie)? YES! DID WE FAIL IN TAKING OUT OSAMA? YES! Was Iraq used as a "Wag the Dog" concept to take our attention off Afghanistan? Possibly, but who knows. If we put all the troops and effort we put into iraq into Afghanistan the country would be wiped clean of al-qaida, thats something to be certain about. Al-qaida gaining record members and MANY more members than we can kill is almost like saying were losing the war on terror.
GJ Bush on an excellent presidency.
The only arguement that can be put forth on Bush being a good president is that there hasn't been a major terrorist attack against this country. But then again how often did they happen before (foreign terrorism)? They take lots of planning, skill, training, and never happened often. Its like saying NASA has been successful in asteroid hunting because we haven't been destroyed with galactic death yet.
Now counter that, genius. I can't wait to see what you say, probably counter maybe one thing AT MOST like saying that Clinton lied so he is the next Benedict Arnold or something insignificant and off subject as that. Oh i forgot, you people are told what to say by your great leader and dont have opinions, ideas, or knowledge of your own. Seriously, only people who read up and know what their talking about politically and historically should talk about politics. Only makes people think that the opposing political party is idiotic. Whats funny is the people who dont research and play politics always thing the opposition is idiotic anways.....
BTW on a side note. Isn't the Republican party supposed to be the party of FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY and SMALL GOVERNMENT? Seems Bush is a traitor to his own party if it is. I know many conservatives in his own party think hes a failure when it comes to those respects. Guess the Republicans lost their trademark and gave it to the Democrats.
ONE last fact. To counter ANYONE who says Bush went into Iraq for human rights violations (the new excuse, doesn't mention WMDs anymore just saving people from saddam, a reason he didn't give to go to war with Iraq). There are MANY countries that are INFINATELY WORSE as far as this goes. I'd call roving bands that cut off women's breasts and peoples lips and leaves them bloody and dead and massacreing whole villages and ethic cleasing, and thats only the start of it i could go on, more important than Iraq in that respect. Where does this happen? A few countries in Africa. Iraq is a daycare center in compairison.
Yeah, you tell that dumb*ss, kanaric.
"I am a dreamer. I need to dream..."
" he could of been elected again."
You mean could HAVE, not OF. Jeez!
no clinton is a traitor because of the numerous times he tried to give away our national sovereignty up to the u.n. if he had his way america would be controlled by the united nations not america, he is a traitor because he took our american fighting man and women and forced them to serve a foreign governmen(u.n) while wearing a foreign uniform(bdu's with blue beret/helmet/ballcap, also a blue u.n flag on the right shoulder and moving u.s. flag to left. ( for those of you who do not understand the signifagance, a in the military a juniour walks on the left of the superior, the right side is the side of dominance and the left the nondominate side, so putting our flag to the left of the U.N on a U.S. uniform is symbolicly stating that our country is inferior.,) and last but not least placing american military personell in combat under the direct command of a foreign officer. (A thing that had never happened before in our military history.) btw U.N. foreign born officers take a loyalty oath to the u.n. not their birth country and definatly not to our country. the interest of the u.n. is placed above the american soldiers they led in combat. those are just a few examples of how he attempted to turn our sovereignty over to the United Nation. and any president willing to give up our national sovereignty is a traightor. also for those who claim the war in airaq is to steal their oil. i have a question... WHERE IS IT? if we are stealing their oil where is it going and why am i still paying around 3.00 at the pumps.
share"I have a much better career going now than I did under that traitorous baffoon Clinton."
Please, Clinton was at least 5 times the president Bush is. The approval ratings say it all. Like kanaric said, America in general was way better off under Clinton. The world opinion of America was also much more favorable when he was in office. He was an adulterer. So what? That doesn't affect his duties as president and you'd really have to be a moron to think so.
"scores of Terrorists have been "dealt with""
So what if a few small time terrorists have been captured? Has Bush found Osama? NO. Nothing much is going to change until they do get him, but even then I doubt it.
"our enemies are hiding in caves"
yes they are, only coz they're planning something nasty against the US or other parts of the world. And if Bush was really good at "dealing with" them as you put it, these terrorists would be in American prisons instead of planning more attacks on God knows where.
"I'm paying a lower percentage in taxes (and I'm far from being considered 'rich'", I'm paying about 10 cents less per gallon of gas than I did the summers of 99 and 00"
Apart from agreeing with kanaric on this point, i think you're just thinking of yourself and not looking at the bigger picture. Look at how worse off other places in the the world are because of Bush. Places like Iraq. Make no mistake, the world hates America even more so now than ever before because of that idiot Bush.
"tell me again how he has "failed" as a President, because I'm sure not seeing it."
Well then I strongly suggest you pull your head out of your ass, pal. Maybe that's what's been giving you "vision" problems.
PS. I cant wait for Farenheit 9/11 to come out and expose Bush for the fraud that he is. Long live Michael Moore!!!!!
Kerry vs. Bush?
Lesser of two evils, much? I think I'll be sitting this election out. Either way we go, we're completely damned.
Not voting stops the beating of the heart of our great nation. Rejoice in different opinions and scream them from the mountain tops...but please don't "sit this one out" because you are afraid of the outcome of the outcome of that choice!!!!! CHOICE isn't that what it's all about? Even if you don't agree with 'the reasons' we are in Iraq, we are still there to help that nation become a democracy. Let them know how a real democrecy works...let's vote!!! Let them know that our government 'hears our voices'....all of them.
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Thankyou Dante, may you never have to climb out of the devil's nostrils again.
And the fact of the matter is that yes Bush hasn't done his best, but he is TRYING to. and if he would have been given the honest chance to actually be a good president, he probably would have been better. People need to be given a chance to do their best.
On the other posts someone wrote some stuff about gas, taxes, and jobs. I too now pay about 10-20 cents less per gallon, I pay less taxes, ( i only make 30,000. Is that rich?), and you can't blame the job loss completely on Bush. The 'bubble,' which was fated to fail any ways, popped at the same time that the WTC was attacked, this caused a catastrophic downturn in the economy. Companies countered by lay-offs and outsourcing, but don't worry, the economy will recover. It has away of balancing out, jobs will return, they always do.
So, this November, vote... I'm not saying for who, that's your choice. But, i warn you, don't vote angry... honestly research your faults in either president, and if that doesn't change your mind, then vote the way you planned. Peace.
"Not voting stops the beating of the heart of our great nation."
Being forced to make one of two wholly unacceptable decisions and calling that "democracy" is laughable.
"CHOICE isn't that what it's all about?"
Being given the choice to stab my right or my left eye is no choice at all. Not all questions can be answered "yes" or "no."
I bet you feel lik a dumbass right now don't you? Or are you still in denail. How's that cheap gas coming?
I'm bleeding, making me the victor.
Yeah..it seems Bush lost very badly to Kerry, right?
It was a landslide....
For Bush.
Jejor, I would like to commend you. Your post on here is very touching, and it really made me think about things. You're a very wise person.
"It was a landslide....
For Bush."
a landslide? What have you been smoking? Do you really know what that word means?
Bush only marginally beat Kerry. And that means only one thing: there are slightly more stupid Americans than smart ones.
Reality can destroy the dream; why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?
- George Moore
President Carter was not a bad president, nor was he a good president. He was a completely innefectual president, he had many ideas and the congress blocked them all. Would they have worked? Nobody knows.
share Actually Bush, at least so far, is only the second worst president in American history. Jimmy Carter is the worst and Franklin Roseveltt is the best.
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he won't b/c matt and trey recently announced on the druge report that they are a conservative libertarian and a republican respectivly who both support bush.
PS VOTE FOR BUSH
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Oh boohoo, why don't you go cry about it you baby? Sure, Bush sucks, but so does Kerry. All politicians are full of crap.
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