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A 2004 Southpark episode where Cartman feigns he's handicapped to win money in Special Olympics was done before this movie.Same idea!! 'Southpark's version was way more hilarious than this film also..

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lol yeah but this is still a great movie =)

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This film was written and completed long before that episode aired. They are unrelated.

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the film was released a year after the episode aired. i definitely think they ripped off south park. the makers seem like the kind of people that would watch SP anyway.

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the movie was made before the episode. it was released after it aired though. I think its just a coincidence.

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the trivia says it took 7 years to make so that has to be way before the sp episode

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If a movie thinks of an idea and it happens to have been already done, it doesn't mean they stole it.

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I believe that this movie was written and filmed before the south park episode.

I think South Park Actually parodies this movie

*Possible Spoilers*

-Cartman pretends to be mentally handicapped for money.
Same for Johnny Knoxville's Character
-During the sequence where Cartman "trains" to be mentally handicapped
--Cartman Stands in front of the mirror practicing different personas; Knoxville has a similar sequence.
--Cartman watches videos of Kid Rock to learn mannerisms; Knoxville Watches "forrest gump","I am Sam", etc. videos
--Cartman uses a computer with wireframe animations to do his "handicapped walk analysis"; in "the Ringer", Billy uses the similar animation to show how Johnny Knoxville can jump higher and faster over hurdles
-In the South park episode, the Character that wins all the events is called Jimmy; in "The Ringer" the defending champion who usually wins all the events is called Jimmy

Either way I love south park and this movie is pretty good too

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Right you are.
This movie was in the making before this episode was even out.
They probably got a hold of the script, liked it, used it and now people are giving them credit.
South Park has been a sinking ship since Season 4.

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To me, it doesn't matter at all. I loved the SP episode, and I loved The Ringer...so whatever. Does it really matter? Exactly.

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Movie's idea and screenplay was written BEFORE the southpark episode! So SP copied the film!

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Are You Kidding? movies dont exist as long as the production starts, it starts as an idea, and that can take months maybe years to get up to production status.

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I think it's more likely that South Park would parody the film - they've done it a few times before. They did a Lord of the Rings episode, just as one example. It doesn't matter anyway they're both good, and if it was supposed to be a parody then consent would have been given - if it wasn't supposed to be a parody it's just a coincidence.

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South Park has been a sinking ship since Season 4
South Park gets more clever, satirical and funny every season.

"They call me Mister Tibbs"

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@darklipslide I think South Park Actually parodies this movie

You seem to lack an understanding of how parodies work - it's kind of hard to parody something you don't know exists at the time of your performance.

I almost came as a Shark actually, but then I realised that an Eagle was slightly better.

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You seem to lack an understanding of how parodies work - it's kind of hard to parody something you don't know exists at the time of your performance.


And if they had been shopping it around to find a distributor for several years, they would have not only shown the film to a lot of people in the industry, they also would have given copies of it to others. I've had a few films on DVD well over a year before they came out to the theaters - and Matt and Trey have much better connections.

They certainly could have seen the film and written their episode to parody it, even though it hadn't been released yet.

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Exactly, there is a song by R.E.M. that has the same melody as a Journey song, but the R.E.M. song was written and played live a couple times before the Journey song, just never released (It was on the Vanilla Sky soundtrack). Neither band had heard the other's song, so it's a coincidence.

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If this movie took 7 years to make, they wasted a litte more than 6 and a half years of their time. Saw was filmed in like 3 weeks.

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I don't think you know what "great" means.

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Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!

2 little kids walked into my movie, sat down and lite up a joint while talking loudly. So annoying!

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Movies take at least a year to produce (somebody said they worked on this idea for over 7 years?) The South Park guys pump out their episodes like 3 days before it airs... I doubt one ripped off the other. Both were equally offensive but equally hilarious.


"I don't make monkeys, I just train 'em" - Pee Wee's Big Adventure.

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You guys seriously need a reading comprehension program. Uhmm, in addition to the fact that The Ringer is wayy older than that episode of South Park, did the trivia not say that the 2001 South Park episode Knoxville is watching in the beginning of the film was written by the same writer of The Ringer? Could it be that this same writer also wrote the episode you guys are reffering to?

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family guy writer, not south park.

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did the trivia not say that the 2001 South Park episode Knoxville is watching in the beginning of the film was written by the same writer of The Ringer?

He was watching Family Guy?

"It's around 4 o'clock. We've been here since 12 o'clock. Five hours is like enough."

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This was a big story quite a bit ago. The writer of this movie Ricky Blitt talked about how pissed off he was and claimed the SP guys stole the idea after he talked to them about the movie he was making.

In either case, the ringer took years to make, the SP episode took a week. And within a quarter of the time the SP episode had quadruple the laughs.

Really is the ultimate slap in the face to Ricky Blitt, and a huge point for SP in the South Park Vs Family Guy category. Not only did they take his general idea, they spent almost no money or time putting the episode together and ended up making something a lot more entertaining. But yes, it is pretty f'd up they took his idea.

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IF you pay attention, The creators of south park have stated that the whole thing was a coincidence...

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they'd been planning this movie for seven years before finally making it.

"WHEN THE FVCK DID WE GET ICE CREAM?!"
--Winston from "The Ringer"

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I actually heard the line on South Park from the episode "The Mexican Staring Frog of Southern Sri Lanka" which was aired June 1998.

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No shi t. don't rip off southpark. its bad karma



A problem shared is still a problem.

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if you research it you will find out they have been working with the special olympics on this script for seven yrs before they got the go ahead to make it
the script was revised over and over again until that shriver kid who runs SPO
said it was ok so seven plus 2 yrs till it was make and released would be 9 yrs before south park ........

south park may have a big following but its not screaming with originality
comedy is like music it gets rehashed and the younger generation doesnt know or care its their time now so its ok

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South Park if anything adapted the idea. They also looked at the use of steroids being used.

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Yeah, and the makers of Brokeback Mountain did the same. Remember the episode where the kids go the the movie festival, and Cartman said "Its probably just a couple of gay cowboys eating pudding."

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Exactly! I said the same thing when Brokeback came out.

Blitt's argument is insipid, anyway. I write and work in good ol' LaLa Land, and it's ridiculous how many people have the same idea at the same time. And he says he pitched it to South Park? Uh... news for you, Blitt. South Park doesn't take pitches. Everything is written in house. They don't produce other people's material at all. The closest they come to it is buying already produced shows and marketing them.

Blitt's argument that SP ripped him off just comes off as bitter and immature. He likely realized that the SP episode was much funnier than his movie (though the movie is funny as well- just not as good as SP) and is pissed. I understand. I worked on a spec script for one company for three months before having to abandon it because I saw a trailer for the exact same fricking idea. It happens. Grow a pair and deal with it instead of accusing folks of ripping off your story. Besides, SP makes Matt and Trey millions of dollars a year from their own ideas, and the idea behind The Ringer isn't that great. Why risk litigation over it?

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Haha, you guys are all hilarious. I think that the commentary on the DVD for this episode explains a lot. Matt and Trey explain how they had this idea to enter Cartman into the special olympics around season 3, but they thought that there wasnt enough in it to make a 20 minute episode around it. They thought it was a funny idea, but they didnt think it could sustain an audience for 20 minutes, let alone 90. Then in season 8 they came up with the idea of Jimmy doing steroids to win the special olympics, so they decided to have the Cartman thing as a secondary story. Then the film came out a year later, and some south park fans dissed it for "copying" south park, so the film company said south park copied etc. Matt and Trey just said that they had come up with the idea years ago, and were actually just amazed that these people made a fill length film about something they knew couldn't sustain an audience for 20 minutes on its own....

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