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She didn't EVEN KNOW HIM! *mild spoiler*



Katie is a virgin and she goes to bed with Embry within minutes of meeting him?!
In terms of her character's way of thinking, why ever did she even expect him to respect her? She would have likely been a one night stand!

I figure she confused desire for her with love on his part, but we're to believe no guy hit on her till Embry?!



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"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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She wasn't a virgin, every guy who ever crossed her path underestimated her and that was their downfall. She probably killed her own father.

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no way was she a virgin...
and i have done the same thing in school.
walked up to a girl wearing a a mini skirt and pumps to BREAKFAST..
i just said "awesome shoes!! want to f#@k ??" and yes.. she did :D

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Her friend Sam specifically tells the detective that Katie was a virgin when she met Embry:
"He (Embry) snatched the maidenhead from the maiden."
That's a very old-fashioned way of describing losing one's virginity.

I got the impression that this was partly why she was so attached to Embry to begin with; she thought sex meant love.
She says as much to Embry when he breaks up with her: "But I love you! We made love right over THERE!"
But it didn't matter to him, he only wanted her because he could manipulate her & he knew she worshipped him.


"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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that reminds me of my girlfriends pal.. who TOLD ME..
" go slow with her, she is so nice and sweet. if your lucky you will pop her cherry one of these days."
i look at her pal and asked "are you SERIOUS??"

her pal yes.. she is a virgin..
my reply.." we have lived together for 18 months and have banged everywhere from the front door to the elevator to the roof..too.... seriously? you thought a 33 year woman that hot is a virgin? "
then laughed so hard i couldn't breath.

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You sound very mature.

Back to the movie, the issue is I don't think Katie was very confident. It was supposed to be ironic how attractive men found her; she was completely unaware of the effect she had on them because she kept to herself and though she had some friends, was a loner. Obviously, Embry knew how to say the right things to her. She was lonely and he pushed just the right buttons. Looks are not a deciding factor in how many people you sleep with; it's confidence and knowing how to say the right things. It wouldn't surprise me at all if she were a virgin when she met Embry. Personally, I think she was.

Don't let anyone ever make you feel like you don't deserve what you want.

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Good point, Katie did seem shy. I do think she was aware somewhat of her effect on men though, she just seemed perpetually attracted to mysterious 'authoritative' guys.
She rejects anyone that seems kind, such as Harrison or the psychiatrist.

You're correct: Katie was a virgin when she met Embry. Samantha tells this to Wade later, that 'Embry snatched the Maidenhead from the Maiden'. Maidenhead a very old-time term meaning virginity/hymen.


"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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just because she is shy she is a virgin??
oh please. you people need a life.
the shyest girl i have ever known in my life , the girl who never looked me in the face ..the girl who always had her head down the whole 10 years i lived next to her.... was giving blowjobs to all takers at a high school party. 0_o
then went right back to being "miss shy" again.
my mom asks why i never dated the nice girl next door. i just say "she isnt my type"

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Um did you bother to read the above posts?? I wrote in no less than TWO posts that the film indicates Katie was a virgin when she met Embry!




"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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didnt you read MY posts?? did katie HERSELF say it??
NO!!!
you can THINK anything you want about a person!!

oh my goodness!! look at her !!!the SLLLUUUUUTTT!
in REAL LIFE.. the girls who look like sluts can be good girls and the shy girl just maybe a Bj queen..

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I don't know if you're trolling or you just feel like you want to be 'right'.

But Embry tells her she is a virgin, she smiles but never denies it.

Sam tells Wade that she was a virgin. Sam is Katie's best friend.
I think they'd discussed their sexual status. Women do that.


"I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus."
"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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yeah.. just like my girl was a "virgin ' as told to ME by her her BEST FRIEND .
i doubt katie was a virgin. she was a nut who screws and gets overly attached.

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"I think they'd discussed their sexual status. Women do that. "
yes some do..
and yes, they LIE and brag too.


my eyes are rolling so hard i feel like a slot machine.

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Stop trolling, mate. Nobody cares about you and your imaginary girlfriends. We're talking about a movie, not girls who exist in your mind only.

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Don't let anyone ever make you feel like you don't deserve what you want.

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Other than being insane, Katie's main trouble was she associated sex with love.

It should usually be this way, but with a lot of men (and some women) its got little if anything to do with love.

Katie obviously thought since Embry slept with her, he loved her (why she would ever think this, when he wanted her mere HOURS after meeting her is beyond me!.
But the truth was, he was just playing a mind game with her.

Wade might have liked her a little, but even he did not love her.



I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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