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Just making sure I've pieced this right.....


Okay. So, after watching this film a second time (when I should have been studying), I found a lot more clues to the movie itself. First-

Hyo-shin commits suicide. Shi-eun at the end says how ashamed she is of Hyo-Shin, and is this in reference to Hyo-Shin being pregnant? They make this distinction three or so time in the movie that Hyo-Shin is pregnant- in the nurses office when she says the nurse said her symptoms are like pregnancy, but Hyo-Shin brushes it off like it's a joke, the cluster of girls says she was pregnant, and then the main pony-tailed bully claims Hyo-Shin killed herself because she was pregnant.

So. Was she pregnant by Mr. Goh? And is this what Shi-Eun means when she's yelling at Hyo-Shin and saying how ashamed she is of her, and this is why she ultimately breaks it off with Hyo-Shin?

They reconcile at least once during the movie and I assumed this was after the kissing incident, but before the milk incident.

Also, at the end, when they do their little telepathy thing: Does this mean that Hyo-Shin has taken Min-ah's body as her own? Shi-Eun says to Min-ah in telepathy, "Sorry about your diary" and Min-ah smiles and says "It's okay, we can make a new one".

Does this mean Hyo-Shin has taken over Min-ah's body, to get a new start? Is this why Min-ah was so out of it, and maybe, just maybe, this is what the poison/candy helped do?

Just wondering ^^.

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"So. Was she pregnant by Mr. Goh? And is this what Shi-Eun means when she's yelling at Hyo-Shin and saying how ashamed she is of her, and this is why she ultimately breaks it off with Hyo-Shin?"

I thought the same. She didn't kill herself specifically for being pregnant, but because of Shi-Eun's insults. She was truly in love and did not want to lose here.

"They reconcile at least once during the movie and I assumed this was after the kissing incident, but before the milk incident."

I thought both incidents where before they reconcile.

"Also, at the end, when they do their little telepathy thing: Does this mean that Hyo-Shin has taken Min-ah's body as her own? Shi-Eun says to Min-ah in telepathy, "Sorry about your diary" and Min-ah smiles and says "It's okay, we can make a new one"."
Haha, actually the dialogue was the other way around ^^. So, Min-Ah never stopped being herself.
I'm not sure what the pills were made for.

Sorry for being so vague :$ hope this helps a bit.

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I think she says "I can always make another Diary". but not sure. Even though I only watched the film about 15 minutes ago lol.

I think they reconcil after the milk thing. They stop seeing each other for about a year I think someone mentions during the scene where the three bullies are talking by the animal cages. But I'm not sure. Because the editing in this film sucks.

I imagine the pregnancy is only partly the reason she commit suicide. I think Shi-eun was also ashamed because the extent that Hyo-Shin went to make their love public, and ended up embarresing Shi-eun, possibly not thinking about her feelings at all.

As for if Min-ah was possessed at the end, I don't think so but I could be wrong. I'm really bad at spotting those kind of things.And the final 10 minutes was just tireing. It felt like a tv horror drama ending.

Heroes win the battle, cowards win the war.

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I'm still not sure. In my version, after Shi-eun says "I'm sorry about your diary.", Min-ah clearly says (or, the subtitles clearly read) "It's okay; we can always make a new one." Which is what lead me to believe that Hyo-shin possesed Min-ah at the end. That and the use of telepathy that previously only Shi-eun and Hyo-shin shared.

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In my version, after Shi-eun says "I'm sorry about your diary.", Min-ah clearly says (or, the subtitles clearly read) "It's okay; we can always make a new one."

I just watched this film and my version's English subtitles clearly read, "I can always make another one." My version is region 2. If that bit was intended as an indication of possession wouldn't Shi-eun have said, "I'm sorry I lost our diary," rather than, "I'm sorry I lost your diary," anyway?

I don't have a clue what this film was about though, far too confusing for me on the first viewing. I watched Whispering Corridors just prior to Memento Mori and that film made pretty good sense, this one was beyond me... maybe I'm too tired or something. It's good enough that I want to watch it again and again until I finally figure it out though.
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Why is everyone getting the last dialogue between Shi-eun and Min-ah mixed up? I just saw the movie and it was Min-ah who says "I'm sorry I lost your diary" and SHI-EUN who says "It's ok. We can always write a new one." So clearly, Min-ah wasn't possessed by Hyo-shin.

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But Hyo-shin was the one who lost the diary, not Min-ah. Min-ah found it by the outdoor sink. So I think she was possessed by Hyo-shin.
Also, Shi-eun never really seemed interested in Min-ah, so I don't think she would respond to her that way if it was not Hyo-shin.

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I think because they're using telepathy and no one's mouths are moving? But the camera pans over to each girl as they "speak".

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I thought Hyo-shin was ashamed of Shi-eun because being with Shi-eun (openly or otherwise) meant that Hyo-shin was going to be singled out as "different" in a society which demands conformity and that the shame deepens for Hyo-shin every time she is reminded of her feelings.

I think the possession of Min-ah is only meant to be temporary because she's the one living person who is sympathetic toward Hyo-shin and Shi-eun and Shi-eun takes one last opportunity to show Hyo-shin that "true" love never dies. Once Shi-eun accomplishes this then she is free to go or rest in peace, as it were. I thought that's why Hyo-shin went up to the roof that last time...or was I wrong?

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You are mixing up Hyo-shin with Shi-eun. Hyo-shin was the girl who killed herself, and Shi-eun was the short-haired girl (the runner).

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That was a typo. But clearly Shi-eun was very ashamed, especially by the reaction of her classmates to Hyo-shin's making their relationship public. Even before she tells Hyo-shin that she's ashamed of her on the roof, she says "I don't drink milk anymore." and publically rebuffs her. But who is she really ashamed of? Hyo-shin or herself? I think both.

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I just want to make some corrections here. First of all, the scene Shi-une (the runner) tells that she is ashamed of Hyo-shin on the roof is the very last moment of two of them. Right after the moment Hyo-shin commits suicide. Shi-une is obviously feeling ashamed of herself as well as Hyo-shin becasue She cares of other people's opinion while Hyo-shin does not. After Hyo-shin boldliy express her feeling for Shi-une by kissing her in front of Hyo-shin's classmates and a teacher, Shi-une kind of drifts away from Hyo-shin. The milk scene clearly reflects the relationship between them, which is falling apart; when Hyo-shin brings milk to Shi-une, Shi-une ignores her. Very painful moment...

Anyway the movie should not be rebled as a horror movie...It is about a coming of age. Amazingly well crafted...

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My original take on the ending is that the girl runner saying about the diary, "We can always make a new one" is referring to herself and the dead girl... and she then proceeds to the roof where the ghost of her friend/lover awaits her.
They really were in love and despite spurning her the runner still loves her.
The ending, with both girls on the roof playing together as time passes suggested to me that the runner also killed herself... and that now the couple is together forever.

That's just how it struck me as I watched it.
Also, the runner girl seemed less socially awkward than her friend... who always seemed out of place, bullied... a bit strange and sad.

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