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This movie is a remake of The American Friend (Der Amerikanishe Freund)


Interestingly, this excellent movie was never released in theaters in the US. One poster mentioned that the movie was considered too European for Americans, and too American for Europeans, considering it was written by an American.

Actually, this movie is somewhat of a remake of Der Amerikanische Freund (The American Friend) from 1977, starring Dennis Hopper. That movie was adapted and directed by German director Wim Wenders. It's amazing that this is not mentioned anywhere on the IMDb webpage, except for the link to "Remake", which most people would erroneously assume was a reference to The Talented Mr. Ripley.

If you liked the outstanding Ripley's Game, you'll love The American Friend. By the way, the movie's in English, although the title and credits are not.

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That's erroneous.

Both movies are based on the same novel. One doesn't have to be a remake of the other.

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I was amazed at how similar the two were -- right down to the frame shop locale and Ripley's house. I felt like I was watching the same movie, just with different actors.

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I disagree. The Ripley characters were practically polar opposites. I detested Hopper's bumbling, yokel, hillbilly Ripley--aw shucks, we just killed a guy, holee sheepsh*t--as if. (I am a huge fan of the Ripley in the novels.) Malkovich was perfect as Ripley, followed closely by Alain Delon's Ripley in Purple Noon. Delon would have been too old to play Ripley in this version, but I sure would liked to have seen that, if they could have made this movie in the mid-70s. But Malkovich was spectacular. If a little on the unattractive side. ;-)

For the record: I do like Dennis Hopper's acting. I just didn't the Ripley.

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Right, Yinky. I saw American Friend and found it poor in comparison to Ripley's Game with Malkovich. I loved Purple Noon!

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Thanks fan. I knew I was right! <grin>

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Wenders' film is one of my favorites, and I am also a deep reader and fan of the Ripley books. One can admire both, but I acknowledge that Wenders'/Hopper's is a very stylized interpretation of the role. It's very much a product of its age. The Cavani film purposely uproots the sense of period, which is one key to its effectiveness. I love Purple Noon, but dislike the Minghella film. In my opinion Matt Damon's (and the director/writers') interpretation of the Ripley character is as stylized as Hopper's, but far less true to Highsmith's creation, emphasizing only very minor facets of his character's complex personality. There is a steely core to Ripley which Malkovich and even Hopper bring out, whereas Damon, though talented and interesting, makes Ripley hollow and craven at the center. It could be chalked up to his character's supposed youth, but I think it's an unwise course for the film to have taken. I found the cinematography inappropriate to the subject matter as well, or more precisely, irrelevant.

In the Wenders film Bruno Ganz is a remarkable Trevanny (called Zimmerman there), and no matter what you may think of the film, his performance is frequently staggering. Again, he thoughtfully defines the character in the language of the period and place. Remember that Wenders' concept revolves around the American vs. the European frame of reference - a subject of much of his work. His film is called "The American Friend" for that reason.

One thing that I think all who love Ms. Highsmith's novels can agree on is that John Malkovich completely fills the dimensions of the Ripley character. I feel that his ability to capture the Ripley worldview expresses the magnitude of his talent. This is a wonderful film.

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Very thoughtful take, Mulciber, thanks. Though I didn't see any steely core in Hopper's performance....maybe I missed something. He just seemed like a sort of drunken idiot to me; as if he didn't think before he did anything, he just...did whatever came to mind. It's funny, but I think I liked everything about the movie EXCEPT Hopper's performance.

I wasn't crazy about Damon, either, but I think what really bothered me was the Hollywoodization of the script. Particularly Marge's suspicion (well, the whole Gwenyth Marge was just....wrong) and the overt homosexuality of Ripley (I like the ambiguous sexuality of Ripley in the novels).

I think they should have switched Jude & Matt's roles. Jude would have kicked ass. He's kind of a Ripleyesque dude himself. (Or at least, he seems like one to me.)

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John Malkovich as Ripley was definitely better!

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Indeed? I found extremely few similarities. It's basically just the terminally ill persons family situation and job, the train murders and the shoot out at the villa that can be claimed as similarities.

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As others have pointed out they are simply adapted from the same book. They have only a few similarities. Now some will say that this constitutes a remake and I suppose it all depends on how wide your definition is.

But I do agree. The American Film is a masterpiece and far better than this. Despite Ripleys Game being a great film as well.

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Both films are based one the same story. Want "remake" definition.
Wender's one is a classic.
Cavani's is just enternaingly good, with a great Malkovich which restrained stance somehow saves the otherwise spurious solving of difficult situations and the easy ressourcing to typical Italian decadent scenery.
If Cavani intended a remake or not, is for her to tell.

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