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Satire is a dying art.


The audience for movies like this is shrinking exponentially by the day. I believe the future of comedy is fart jokes and frat humor. Damn those Wayans brothers. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

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Perhaps the writers should have at least cracked a dictionary to learn what satire is before writing this movie. It fell quite short from intelligent satire.

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If you qualify this as satire, you fall nothing short of Pumpkin-level intelligence.

I've yet to understand why I sat through this entire ...I don't even know what to call it. Like, were they high when they wrote this? Were they trying to be critical? funny? light-hearted? ironic? This... was nothing. Nothing... but a waste of time.

That said, I laughed hysterically when Kent crashed and his car spontaneously went up in flames before actually hitting the ground. And then he actually survives. That was pretty hilarious, I'll give 'em that.

But dear lord, what the hell was this?!

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Parts of it were weak satire.

The rest was trite melodrama that make daytime soaps look like fine art in comparison.

I'm not sure there was any message anywhere, though the poetry prof had a hint of depth in case they had actually explored that with him.

Satire is a tough business. If you think you may have made a masterpiece of satire, you need to rely on your audience sharing your views and sense of humor, otherwise you fail. Whoever wrote "Pumpkin" might have a future in satire if they practice practice practice. In the meantime, "Pumpkin" is the kind of stuff you churn out before you have much practice.

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I think the best way to look at Pumpkin is as a nice little film that sends up the films of Douglas Sirks. Sirks' movies were for the most part over the top melodramas that had excellent actors as their saving grace (although I wonder how many of those actors shook their head in disbelief at the inane dialogue they had to utter). If you look at Pumpkin in this light you get a whole level of enjoyment out of it. It reminds me of the films of the later films of John Waters as well as Josie and the Pussycats, a very underrated comedy that is a commentary on consumerism underneath the music and silliness (but what a fun movie).

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agreed, netjunkie9

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Unfortunately, I'd have to agree. There's people who can appreciate and understand satire but there's many more who just do not get it at all.

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Satire has been around for thousand's of years in the form of plays, stories, poetry, etc. Fortunately it will never die out, but I agree that it needs way more attention and expression...It is so much better than lower forms of humor in my opinion, but of course it's harder and takes more brains to pull off.

Also, young people often don't get satire. They haven't had enough life experience. So satire automatically has a smaller audience.

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Hmmm... That makes sense. You might be on to something. I remember going over satire in high school; I got the concept, but it stuck me as something that just wasn't funny. Nowadays, though, I'm all over it! To me, Pumpkin was one of the funniest movies I've seen recently, because of the satire (rude humor).

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I'm in the middle of watching this movie for the first time, and it's on commercial TV, but so far I think it's stylish, subversive, touching and hilarious. I wish Melissa McCarthy weren't in it. But it's a trip !

I'm not a woman much less Deanna Durbin, but the old-time glam-shot appeals to me.

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Yes, it was very unexpected. I saw Pecker when it was new and thought it was hilarious but I haven't seen it since. And I liked that some don't want to compare Pumpkin to Todd Solondz, who I generally don't like.
Pretty much saw all of Pumpkin and yes, it is satirical, but I got the warm-and-fuzzies that the Ricci character became fond of Pumpkin. Pretty unbelievable but very sweet. I hope to catch it again. Thanks for the prompt reply. Didn't think anyone was familiar with this one.

I'm not a woman much less Deanna Durbin, but the old-time glam-shot appeals to me.

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