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Is Part of Southern America actually like this?


Being British and never being to the southern states I don't know personally whats its like there, only know what i've seen from films. But are there really people out there who live in lawless towns and just sit around all day playing the banjo, washing in a tub in the street, sleeping with their direct family and hating the north and blacks/asians etc..?

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There are racist small towns everywhere including up north dumbass! North have nazis and south have our share of the KKK! So do you sit in your small northern town saying "Hail Hitler"???????

MissC

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more like *beep* Hitler,nazi *beep*

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They let you out of the neo nazi meeting early?

MissC

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LOL
what?
are you saying i'm neo nazi?
cause if you do,i'm a proud Jewish,my dear stupid friend!


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fcherrelle.....why the hell did you call the op a "dumbass"?? also he clearly said he's british...and you said "do you sit in your small northern town saying "hail hitler"????" who are you talking to???

the guy was just asking a question. try and keep it cool.

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The guy is from England you retard, not the north.

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Wow you really need to sort that attitude out!!!

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Woah..calm down there, son. He/She was just asking a question.

I live in the South and I admit there are more racists here than up North. In fact, a guy I work with is a Klan member..it seems he gets nervous when a black person is near him..I try to stay away from this guy. Well, now they are more of a crappy political party than a racist organization..but they still come off racist.

However, most in the South aren't this way, but even less up North are. It's not to the degree it is in this mediocre movie, people tend to keep it to themselves.



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This comment was totally uncalled for. He says he is from Britain and only goes by whats in the movies.
I have lived in the South all my life, born in N.C., then we moved to MS when I was 15. I have lived in Chicago and California and can honestly say that where I lived was less racist than those 2 areas. Blacks who come down here are amazed how friendly us white folks are. Slavery was a huge embarrassment for us. Only 1% of the southerners owned slaves, most did not. I have seen letters that my relatives who lived in that time were extremely relieved and happy when slavery was ended. People were afraid to speak out against it or assist the slaves from escaping because they would be killed.

We still have racists here but they have no voice and no power. But racists exist everywhere.

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This comment was totally uncalled for. He says he is from Britain and only goes by whats in the movies.
I have lived in the South all my life, born in N.C., then we moved to MS when I was 15. I have lived in Chicago and California and can honestly say that where I lived was less racist than those 2 areas. Blacks who come down here are amazed how friendly us white folks are. Slavery was a huge embarrassment for us. Only 1% of the southerners owned slaves, most did not. I have seen letters that my relatives who lived in that time were extremely relieved and happy when slavery was ended. People were afraid to speak out against it or assist the slaves from escaping because they would be killed.

We still have racists here but they have no voice and no power. But racists exist everywhere.

I run around in circles, it is my metaphor

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I recently visited my best friend who lives in Mexico, NY. During the week I was there, I saw a trailer park, a taxidermy business being run out of a trailer, a COW on a chain in somebody's front yard, and a bunch of rundown junk cars in somebody's yard. I felt right at home.

There are rednecks EVERYWHERE.

~Kim
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The Ku Klux Klan are not just in Southern states. They're in all 50 states. They don't have the numbers they did in the 1920s (4 million) but they still are spread out across the United States; most heavily in the South. Also, skin heads and neo-Nazis are in the Southern US and while the KKK doesn't necessarily get along with neo-Nazis (believe it, or not) they do sometimes join up together.

-Nam

I am on the road less traveled...

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No to all your questions, darling. We have laws. Some of us play piano instead of banjo. We got indoor plumbing last year so the wash tub is out of the street. I haven't slept with a direct family member in a couple of years. We disbanded our branch of the Klan six months ago due to apathy. [/sarcasm off]

Sheesh, babe...get a grip. I've never been to Australia but I know not everybody goes around 'throwin' a shrimp on the barbi' for me.

Of course, if we are going by films then all you Brits must have a huge stick up your bum or be on the dole, right?

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You forgot "bad teeth".

;)

-Nam

I am on the road less traveled...

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You mean inhabited by the blood thirsty ghosts out for revenge against all yankees?

Yeah, it's pretty common. It was so bad I had to leave Atlanta.

"Rock is dead! Long live Paper and Scissors!

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Bitch. Do you live in Georgia?

I've been livin here since before Jesus & Spider-man defeated Micheal Jackson & his army of zombies

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Zombie, not anymore, couldn't take all the murderous hillbilly ghosts! I was born in the north and those bastards just wouldn't leave me alone! ;-)

Moved to California, it's not bad save for all the damn vampires!

"Rock is dead! Long live Paper and Scissors!

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:D

Speaking as an European, I always wonder how you Americans survive with all those evil monsters and creatures running around all over the country!

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Yes in Tennesee we regularly eat people lol. Anyway some southern states are VERY backwards. But believe it or not we do have electricity, running water, and indoor plumbing.

That being said, I love this movie. It's dumb I know, but it's so much fun.

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You packed a lot of questions into one sentence, so let me try to break it down.


are there really people out there who live in lawless towns


Not really, no. While there are certainly places where law enforcement is overwhelmed by the crime rate, giving the impression that there is no law, all towns are subject to local, county, state and federal laws, and if the local law enforcement won't unhold a law regarding a crime, a higher authority will.


and just sit around all day playing the banjo,



For the most part banjos seem to have gone out of style with the invention of subwoofers. (/sarcasm) Acoustic guitars are still popular, but that's certainly not something that's limited to the south. People old and young all across the country enjoy sitting around, strumming a guitar as a hobby. With the creation of air conditioning, though, most people prefer to stay indoors, especially here in the south, where it can get very hot.


washing in a tub in the street,



Little known fact about the south: we DO have indoor plumbing! We also have the following:

~telephones
~air conditioning
~shoes
~vehicles other than pickup trucks
~denim products other than overalls
~brand name clothing
~national chain stores other than Wal-Mart and Piggly-Wiggly
~high-speed DSL


sleeping with their direct family



Incest does exist in the south, like everywhere else, but unlike in movies, it's hardly commonplace. It's still considered highly taboo and frowned upon by general society. In fact, in most of the south, as well as the rest of the US, marrying of first cousins is illegal.

In the UK, on the otherhand, it's still quite legal.


and hating the north and blacks/asians etc..?



Racism exists everywhere, sadly. But having grown up in "The North" (Washington D.C.) and moved to the south some years ago, I can honestly say that racism is more prevelant within the inner city of your average metropolis than it is in most of the south. I came across much more racist sentiment in DC or on trips to Los Angeles than I ever have in Birmingham or Atlanta.

I will say this though; the farther you get from the major cities, the more backwoodsy the south tends to get. You're more likely to encounter something approaching on the racist, inbred stereotypes of the south when you get father out there. It's typically never near as bad as you see in the movies, though; that's just a stereotype used for comic effect.

Also, and this is true, you do tend to see some of the Confederate flags around the south. I'm certainly not a fan of them, as they still make me uncomfortable. I found them particularly frightening when I first moved here, assuming those who owned them were racist rednecks. I've since found out, however, that a lot of people who own them don't see them for the racist banner that most northerners do, but rather as a symbol of their heritage and family history. Some people take great pride in the history their family holds in the south, and the Confederate flag to them represents the land their ancestors tilled and farmed to establish and support a family. (While I can respect that sort of family pride, I personally will always see the rebel flag as the symbol of racism and oppression that the rest of the country does. But I've come to realize not everyone who uses the flag intends it that way.)

And keep in mind, in the movie (SPOILER ALERT!!!!!) the town was comprised of people who died during the Civil War. That's not just isolated, that's nearly 150 years ago. It makes sense that they're not particularly up with modern trends.

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On the Battle Flag: a very small non-racist percentage display the flag as a sign of anti-government and/or rebellion. A very small percentage display the flag based on "heritage", a big percentage display the flag as a monument to white superiority but to them: not as a racial symbol, and the rest purely based on white supremacy (funny enough: the former do not consider the latter 'superiority/supremacy' to be synonyms -- that's Southern education for ya).

I'm related (on my mother's side) to many of these people. My father's originally from Indiana but he grew up in Miami in the late 50s to early 70s.

I grew up in a small Southern town (not so small anymore and highly diversified these days) outside Orlando, FL called Ocoee, FL. Think Rosewood, FL but 100x's worse. Back in the 1920s a black land owner and a few others went to try to vote and by the end many died on both sides, the town stole the black land owner's land and 100% of the black population was driven out. It didn't really start getting non-whites (excluding hispanics) until around the late 1970s. It's sometimes difficult to find a Southern town with just white people (you notice The Andy Griffith Show never had any black people -- unrealistic). Something bad really had to happen for that to be reality.

I mean look at many Confederate monuments in the South who, in particular, they represent. My hometown (not Ocoee) in Northern Florida used to have a statue of an officer who was considered a butcher (in the bad way) to many during the Civil War but they put a monument up in the 1940s and by the 1960s they finally got rid of it saying that a highway was coming in on the exact route the statue was which was true but there was already a road there that went along the path of where the highway was going to go. That was just their excuse in getting rid of it. Maybe they had a change of heart, or maybe they thought it would drive away new business.

I'm not saying that Southerners shouldn't be proud of their ancestors but how many people throughout time do you remember who celebrate the loss of war based on slavery? Or, based on such a major loss then erect monuments everywhere and reenactments to commemorate it? I'm betting not too many. I mean, look who they have on Stone Mountain in Georgia.

And you notice how they celebrate their Southern heritage dictated by a war. Their 'heritage' only seems to exist between 1861-1865. Isn't that weird?

As i hear a lot here (where I live): The South will rise again -- does that sound like 'heritage', to you?

-Nam

I am on the road less traveled...

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If you want get an interesting perspective of the south watch the awesome dcoumentary that came out a couple of years ago called Wrong-Eyed Jesus. You'll thank me for it.

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"are there really people out there who live in lawless towns"

IMHO there is only one town where the legal due process was thrown out the window and remains out the window. That town is West Memphis Arkansas. Read up on the West Memphis Three and you'll see that justice is not only blind in that town but she hasn't visited in nearly two decades...

About this flick it was good for what it was, Mr. Englund trying to get away from the Freddy Krueger image and not quite succeeding.

"How dare you speak his name! YOU FILTHY HALF BLOOD!"

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I know a guy from southern indiana that didnt know what DVD was in the least. Just tossing that out there. Also everyone does in fact own or have easy access to at least one pickup truck. Wiki that cuz thats a fact.

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i'm from East TN and it makes me hotter than an ol' wet hen when i hear people say that the South is like these sorts of movies. as i was watchin' this movie, i didn't know whether to be offended or amused. i did like the townsfolk, they look like what most Southerners do and they acted, for the most part, like some of the real Southerners act...mannerisms, i mean, not the killing thing, lol.
i also liked the boys, Harper, especially, he looked like a nice Southern Boy (and had he not been a ghostly killer, might've been a nice boy to hang out with down by the river and sip lemonade with)

sure, as Southerners, we have our traditions. we have backwards ways of thinkin' in most parts, i suppose. but mostly, we are not all that different from anywhere else in the world. we are proud of our heritage & we wanna be loved and understood. and we do have laws. sure, people try to break 'em all the time down here, what with our moon-shine steals & imported tomatoe plants (you get a cookie if ya figure that one out, kids) but we know how far to push/bend the rules. just cos ya have a loaded shot gun does not mean ya have to use it. *even Bubba knows that...*

yeah, and one more thing i really like is how most of today's media inserts a "YEE-HAW!" here and there...like we actually say that...i have never heard a person seriously say that in all of my 24 yrs on God's green earth.

not everyone lives on a farm and milks cows or has a huntin' dog named Red they keep in the back of their pick-up trucks. we know how to behave civilized in a restruant and eat with silverware like everybody else and we know how to shop for more than mud tires and beer. we don't always wear overalls or go line-dancin' on Saturday nights, sometimes we just go campin'.
oh, and we wear shoes on our feet...for some reason, people up North assume we don't wear shoes.

with that said, i have gone thru small towns that i wouldn't leave a stray dog in, but there is a lot to be said about Southern towns & their charm, ya know? i live in a small town~no redlights~and just got our very own Dollar General Store that we affectionally call "our very own lil Wal-Mart". :)

are there ghosts out for revenge in these small towns? i guess that's a possibility...all i know is that when people murder people in other states, they always seem to bring the body to the valley or mountains of TN to dump. either they're showin' them some real pretty scenery OR they know the animals will get to 'em before the cops find 'em.

~COME VISIT, YA'LL!~

"Oh, Baby, you're my drug
I was just your cigarette!"
~Miranda Lambert

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OKAY...The guy who posted above just confirmed every thing stereotypical about southern americans. I was going to say that my old man went out to south carolina and thought it was a little bit like what everyone thought but its deffinatly like that.

Anyway to the origional OP im also british and i just wanted to say that there are places that are really inbred in england. I know someone who used to work in boston in lincolnshire and there are houses that are way way out in the sticks. Near where my mum lives on the moors theres some real wierdos. If you can find it watch "the man who eats badgers and other strange tales from bodmin moor" Its part of the "wonderland" series.

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Hey mate,

Obviously, this movie is ridiculously dramatized and meant to be funny, but yes, I'm sorry to say there are idiot hicks everywhere in the USA. Not just in the South. You can find ignorant, lowlifes in any small (or large) town North or South all across America.

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