MovieChat Forums > Il était une fois... l'homme Discussion > is it ok to show it to kids ? its a hist...

is it ok to show it to kids ? its a history show from 35 years ago.


since 1978 there were alot of new researches, improvement in gna technoloogy and new founds that could probably change many episodes. this show can mislead...

reply

You have to keep in mind that this was created by christians so some aspects of jewish myth is presented as historical fact. Obviously, there is going to be disagreement if you are christian.

1. They have included the part where the 12 (or whatever) plagues effects Egypt. Then Moses leads his people out of Egypt, the Nile river separate and they cross. A little later, the soldiers pass and the river drowns them.

2. In another episode, some people are passing by Mount Ararat and see a boat and they say, look, it is Noah's Ark.

3. In one episode, they wrote Turkey while in that time period, Turkey didn't exist yet. They don't mention Syria/Iraq/Iran/Armenia/Georgia/Russia/Chechnia/Daghestan so I don't see why they would write Turkey. In the other episodes, they get it right at least.

"improvement in gna technoloogy and new founds that could probably change many episodes. this show can mislead... "

No, DNA evidence would not change any episodes. The part about how native americans reached North America is valid.

reply

You have to keep in mind that this was created by christians so some aspects of jewish myth is presented as historical fact.

Which is very ironic, as this show would also show evolution as a scientific fact.

They have included the part where the 12 (or whatever) plagues effects Egypt. Then Moses leads his people out of Egypt, the Nile river separate and they cross. A little later, the soldiers pass and the river drowns them.

There were ten plagues, and it wasn't only a river, where the water supposedly was separared, but it was a whole sea.

Intelligence and purity.

reply

Yes, it starts out with cavemen days.
There is also a version of the intro which shows one animal turning into another.

Thanks for correcting me on the plagues. I didn't know the details back when I posted. Now that I read it about, it appears like a crazy violent story. It is odd that there are 10 plagues and not the usual number, 12, like I mentioned in my previous post.

reply

Can't comment on the english/french versions, but in the german dub, the narrator points out some of the unsubstantiated claims in the animation/story. Like the Noah's ark scene where one of the characters says the ship on the mountain is indeed the ark and the narrator says something like ".. I find his interpretation of this find pretty odd".

There are a lot of other instances like this, like the whole "Spartan wedding"-episode in which the narrator also says that the stuff depicted isn't really proven or during the Olympic games scenes where he explains that the depiction of women in the audience is an anachronism. I think in the original version, none of this stuff is presented as anecdotal or doubtful.

Anyhow: I used to watch this series as a ten year old when it first aired over here (1980). My parents used to watch it with me and were pretty impressed with it. They didn't need to encourage me to keep watching. These days, some of the historical "facts" presented are outdated (like the notion that the pyramids were build mostly by slaves), but it nevertheless is still a great way to get young kids interested in history (IMO).

I just rewatched about half of it after 30+ years (God, I'm getting old) and I'd still recommend it for young kids, but probably not for those younger than, err, 8 to 10 years or so.

There's quite a bit of "real" violence in it (people/animals getting killed) but most of the conflicts are handled in a slapstick type of manner (like people getting hit over the head with huge clubs and only seeing stars as a result). Still: I don't mind any of that - I don't see why kids shouldn't learn about the unpleasant aspects of life. The reason why I wouldn't recommend it for very young kids is that they'd probably not understand most of the stuff going on or that they wouldn't be interested in it. Might also be a good idea to watch it *with* your kids. It's still pretty funny even for an adult, you might learn/re-learn stuff and you can explain the more complex issues to your kids that they might not grasp yet.

Oh, and yeah: You probably won't like this series if you're a creationist, since it does start around 5 billion years in the past and it doesn't show people living with dinosaurs. But then again: If you're a creationist, you probably won't be interested in a show like this anyway ;)




S.

reply

Creationists can watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJBVGEKv86Y
Of course, it isn't accurate.
It doesn't mention the separation of the waters into 2 parts to have a horizon.
It presents the earth as a round rock while it is suppose to be all water (no land, not even on the bottom).
Land gets created by god according to the Bible(firmament).
It presents the creation of day and night as if there was a bright light (sun?). Later on, on the 4th day, the sun gets created.
It says that the plants were created after but in the Bible, the plants are created before the sun is created, on the 2nd day.
It shows sexual reproduction (bird in an egg and his mother) while there is no such thing in the Bible.

reply

The first episode may be the biggest "offender" in this respect. Despite it's scientific approach, nearly all of the supposed facts it presents about Earth's prehistoric fauna, especially the Mesozoic, have become laughably outdated. Even as a kid, I found it amusing.

The series was produced after the great "silent period" of dinosaur research in the 20th century, during which time palaeontological advancement had slowed to a halt, so it really can't be faulted for being inaccurate.

reply

I watched this as a kid, and already back then some stuff was probably outdated. If you explain your kid that some of this is not correct according to more recent scientific findings, then it should be fine. It's certainly better than most of the other series out there that teach bad ethics and promote bad behavior. This series in contrast will definitely do more good than bad.

reply

its still a good show, though some parts are dated,
(cro-magnon for example)
but thats not such a huge problem.
kids get interested in history and thats a huge achievment.
still a great kids show!

reply

but i have also to mention
that i ve seen just the german version
and this one is to be said a little bit better than the other ones.
the speaker was a real historian and german kids got more and better informations than other ones

reply

and... there are not just some religious stories told,
there are also some of greek mythology:
kids hear the story of david and goliath, samson and so on...
though to present them as historical facts
its not that bad if childs have heard them already...
its not a absolutely correct historical show, far from that(!),
but the kids get an idea
and an oversight.

reply

I don't think I would be comfortable letting my kids watching this episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHo3Mv871GU&t=12m15s


different times.....I suppose.


reply