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it bothers me that they are casting much younger women as their girlfriends


I mean, Richard Lewis can't even walk upright anymore, are we supposed to believe that a young attractive woman would actually consider dating him??

Same with Larry and the mail carrier last episode.

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That has bothered me about this show from Day One of its debut. The women are younger, AND hotter, than the guys; and I'm a straight guy and I still think it's creepy.

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It may be creepy. but that is how it is to a large extent with the rich and their buddies. Women are so dispossessed they need to survive somehow, and many of them look for a rich guy to make happy.

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We don't disagree, and you may have seen some of my pro-feminist posts on this very site. I have had many prostitute friends in my life, some of them quite close, and my guess is that I know The Life a, at the personal level, one whole lot better than you do, or ever will. It is still creepy, and repugnant, that a prime woman will hook up with a beta male. Yes, absolutely, her survival matters. So does her dignity, and she can play a beta- or kappa- male that she can survive, may, thrive, and keep her dignity.

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The difference is that upper class women do not HAVE to hook-up as you put it. Maybe all that carousing with prostitutes doesn't give you the broad ( no pun intended ) perspective you think it does.

>> personal level, one whole lot better than you do, or ever will.

But you know, you don't know who you are talking to, or what my experiences have been. You are creating some kind of average guy straw and then attacking it like it is me, not knowing anything about me. That is underhanded and an invalid argument, a fallacy, the straw man fallacy. To me it makes it unpleasant to talk to someone like you who is accusatory and has a loud boastful mouth. I don't appreciate it, and if I was having an actual conversation with you I'd just walk away because you are expressing yourself, even if you do have something to say, like a rude jerk

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Women are dispossessed? Wha?..

And once again, none of the women on this show are actually portrayed as gold-diggers. Larry being the co-creator of Seinfeld is always a side note at best - none of his money or connections ever come into play.

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Women are not paid the same as men.
Women do not have the same opportunities, though that is changing.
Women also are not compensated for their mothering role as well.
Women do not have to be gold diggers to realize the way our society
works for the majority of women is that they pick a man who is more
prosperous, usually because they are physically more attractive.

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Women do have the same opportunities as men now, and there are many couples where the woman is the higher earner.

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many is a meaningless term in that context, what percentage?

I will demonstration how to retrieve and present an actual fact: ( Wikipedia )

According to data compiled by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 29.3 percent of wives earned more than their husbands in 2013 (in families in which both wives and husbands have earnings). Back in 1987, 17.8 percent of U.S. wives brought home more money than their husbands.Nov 19, 2015

So, less than a third of woman earn more than their husbands. Now, you go find the stats on the number of divorced and unmarried women who live in poverty?

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Women don't care about looks as much as men do, and even more so when the guy has money.

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Are you a woman that you are spouting this nonsense??
I *am* a woman, and I certainly care about looks very much - every woman does. And no amount of money is going to make up for a 30+ year difference. Especially since none of the women on the show are portrayed as gold-diggers.

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I didn't say it doesn't matter at all but it is a known fact that men are more visual when it comes to their sexuality. For example men are more likely to watch porn while women are more likely to read erotic novels.

Another factor here might just be general success, power and influence rather than just the money in the bank. Some people are attracted to that so its not just a question of gold diggers or not.

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And once again, none of that actually ever comes into play on the show.

One indication of that, btw, is how easily all those women drop them at the slightest transgression.

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"she" is just being obstinate.

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You just don't realize how detached from reality you sound.

Seriously, you must be extremely unsuccessful to think the way you do.

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> You just don't realize how detached from reality you sound.
> you must be extremely unsuccessful to think the way you do.

What a stupid thing to say. Just make up whatever you want and accuse it.

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I am sure I am not making anything up. If you actually were successful, you wouldn't be thinking in these terms and ready to provide statistics on what women look for in a partner. That tells me that you are unsuccessful both financially and romantically.

And conversely, no one with this kind of outlook can be successful.

But hey, you can keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better about your life.

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Most of Larry's women have been obnoxious or ugly. Richard Lewis has had some babes tho, which is supposed to be ridiculous.

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It's absolutely absurd. I don't find it creepy, i find it pathetic and distracting. After the divorce, when larry started dating it was soooo fucking weird. I can't think of a time it didn't seem like he was out with his daughter.

The show never makes the woman seem like they are in it for his money either, the ONLY thing that would make sense.

Even ignoring the age difference, the guy looks like a walking corpse and has the charisma of one. Makes no sense for anyone to want to date him if not for his money.

At least Richard Lewis is pleasant, even though in later seasons the poor guy looks like a corpse even more than Larry.

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It's Hollywood. All the women are whores.

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But the show doesn't do anything to make us think they are after his money or anything. It seems like any normal dating between two people. Except one is hot and the other one looks and acts like shit.

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Well, now Richard Lewis is an actual corpse.

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What's the problem? Why can't an older man date a younger woman? It's only been going on since the dawn of the species.

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What's in it for the woman?


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Older men are wiser, know more about, well, everything.

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Right, younger women are just all over decrepit impotent men for their "wisdom". [facepalm]



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Money, experiences, contacts, career boosts, not having to have sex all the time.
I think men have a higher aggression level than women and want to be dominant,
and that works well because most women ( not all ) are not as aggressive in
romantic relationships. It fit for most of human history, but things are changing
now too. I think men are attracted to younger women, and most women are
attracted to older men ... not Larry David old, but older. It mimics their relationships
with the dads. I don't think younger men and older women are a parallel between
younger men and their mothers because that is a trespass against their fathers.
Anyway, mostly it is about fantasy, and men fantasize about having young women
who they can impress.

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I won't get into the reasons, just point out that when you look at who wealthy, famous, high status are dating and marrying, it is not uncommon to see them with women younger than themselves by a fairly wide margin.

I'd say the show reflects reality in that way, again, without trying to explain why this is the case.

Hell, Tom Arnold, after he was divorced from Roseanne, married women much younger than himself. Even that level of fame was enough to get younger women interested.

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Larry David married a woman almost 40 years younger, so there's some basis for it in reality. Some women will be interested in an older guy who is successful and that wealthy. Married to Larry, she has a certain lifestyle I'm sure she enjoys.

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I just saw this video of Dofph Lundgren whose fiance is barely in her 20's and he is 66.
This is prostitution, and it is stealing women from all of us regular to poor guys.
Inequality strikes in a lot of different ways.

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Money cures a lot of ills.

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