Things I've learned from the Omega Code movies (possible spoilers) - Megiddo: The Omega Code 2 (2001) Discussion

[–] 18 years ago

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Yeah, I find a bottle of sleeping pills and some vodka really make this movie a blast.

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>Yes, there may be propaganda like subliminal messages in such films
lol, you obviously havent seen it, otherwise you would know that there is nothing subliminal about the contrived messages in this one

i know it maybe hard to believe, you just have to watch it, it is really just as bad as goldsmith sais, for me it is still one of the most shocking movies, a radical hate and war-propaganda like ive hardly ever seen it again

>1. Peace in the Middle East is the work of Satan.
>2. World peace in general threatens national sovereignty, and is the product
>of Satan.
lol, yeah finally a movie clearing that up, not that people start to mistake peace and diplomathy for a positive thing

its really funny how desperatly the movie makers try to reconcile their xenophobic world view with the aura of peace and the diplomatic efforts of the EU

the really alarming thing is the participation of so many quite well known faces, even one of the few german hollywood-actors: "udo kier"

>5. When Satan threatens to take over the world, it will be the USA that
>stands alone in trying to thwart him.
lol, no not alone but with the help of the chinese army (in american tanks :-) )

here you see how calculating this movie is, its better to not annoy the coming first world power

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[–] mgoldsmith 18 years ago

16. Outdoor ampitheatres aren't uncommon in Africa.

17. Said ampitheatre is close to a huge telephone tower, a barn, and what appears to be a freeway.

18. Willpower and a creepy German guy can make you the devil.

19. There is an uber-Devil, without whom there would presumably be no devil. He's the creepy German guy.

20. Satan's minions look like computer generated lemurs.

21. Even when Satan's wife realizes that he is the Devil, and that he kills everyone who gets in his way through his evil powers, she sticks with him like a good Christian woman. And dies from it.

22. If you kill someone before they publicly announce what they are doing with their possessions after they die, their plans are nullified and you can take whatever you want.

23. Blackmailing someone with evidence of something that didn't happen is a useful tactic.

24. After thusly being blackmailed, the renegade US president gets to keep his Secret Service members, the US military, and enough contact with China and Mexico to get their military assistance, while being constantly pursued by the FBI.

25. The apocalypse and Satan both look like something from a cheap Playstation game.

Ugh. I'm done.

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[–] lastgoldrush 18 years ago

Satan is a huge winged baboon.

Some Guy: When is world peace the same as controlling the world?
The President: When it takes away my freedom!

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[–] tribalmaggot 18 years ago

actually the end of the world is supposed to involve peace in the middle east according tot he bible.

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[–] CrouchingTiger15 18 years ago

Yeah, sadly this page seems to be made up of a bunch of posts by people highly uneducated in both Christian theology and film production. A lot of the things on the initial list (ie peace in the Middle East) are actually in prophecy as precursors to the end of the world, apocalypse, rise of Satan, whatever you want to call it. As for the mistakes in the movie (ie putting the Pres and Vice Pres on Air Force One together, the British Americans, etc) this movie was made on a limited budget. I fully admit that problems exist in it but those are due to independent film scripting and casting. Scripting problems stem from either 1. a bad writer (which isn't the case) or 2. changing things to make filming, editing, etc easier. Thats what happened in this movie; it was just easier to do things in certain ways. Not every movie ever made has a production company shoveling dozens of millions of dollars into it. That's why there's no Tom Cruise of Bruce Willis in this and the animation is...less than exciting. If you have a decent British actor and a terrible American actor, you would take the British actor, even though the character is American. This is what you get from independent films. Embrace them or stop watching them.

A little aside, I had nothing to do with this movie. I'm a film student who has seen the movie and has a moderate understanding of "End Times" prophecy.

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[–] lastgoldrush 18 years ago

Wow... Well, I'm just going to say that the fact that a film is independent doesn't really necessitate a lack in quality.

And was it really independent? I'm not saying it's not, but for some reason, I thought that it was produced by TBN or something.

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[–] kentatm 18 years ago

the movie had a $22 million budget! episodes of Firefly looked better at $2 million a pop!

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[–] timyang19 18 years ago

Actually, independent films with a budget less than $10k, and recorded by a handycam lasting 10 hours were more appealing...

"Ang Ebolusyon ng Pamilyang Filipino"-
"The Evolution of a Philippine Family"

Lav Diaz, you rock!

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[–] jfabiani 17 years ago

Sorry for the ignorance of meaningless 2,000 year old myths.

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[–] alfaneo 16 years ago

I'm terrfied too,because this movie is really crappy.
It is the worst thing ever created period.
Do not see this movie. If you are ever forced to at gunpoint, take your chances, if you live the bullet will be far less painful than watching this piece of mega garbage. If you die, you can die never having seen the Omega Code, a feat I only wish I will be able to claim on my death bed.
End times prophecy or *beep*
Next time do not forget to bring chuck norris,after all there is no evolution god(chuck norris) created us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And of course god converted the communists,lol.

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[–] Xaria 15 years ago

'moderate understanding of end times prophecy'- more than the creators of it had i suppose.

'Just remember. I can complete a jigsaw using only my tongue. With the lights out.'

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[–] garnet-8 13 years ago

>this movie was made on a limited budget.

22 million is not a limited budget. If you cant make a good movie with that kind of money you cant make a good movie.

I fully admit that problems exist in it but those are due to independent film scripting and casting. Scripting problems stem from either 1. a bad writer (which isn't the case) or

YES THIS IS THE CASE... the writing was terrible... I pity Micheal York for even attempting to act his character. This has to be one of the worst scripts ever written. Just saying that it was inspired by bible prophecy is no excuse for bad writing. The standard should even be higher when using the bible as a text for storytelling.

2. changing things to make filming, editing, etc easier. Thats what happened in this movie; it was just easier to do things in certain ways.

thats not what made this film bad... those things can be overlooked when there is a real story , and compelling characters.

Pixar probably are the only storytellers I know of who could actually make the book of revelation into a good feature film. This is the mother of all adaptations and you dont give that kind of responsibility into the hands of writers like these guys.

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[–] garnet-8 13 years ago

>this movie was made on a limited budget.

22 million is not a limited budget. If you cant make a good movie with that kind of money you cant make a good movie.

I fully admit that problems exist in it but those are due to independent film scripting and casting. Scripting problems stem from either 1. a bad writer (which isn't the case) or

YES THIS IS THE CASE... the writing was terrible... I pity Micheal York for even attempting to act his character. This has to be one of the worst scripts ever written. Just saying that it was inspired by bible prophecy is no excuse for bad writing. The standard should even be higher when using the bible as a text for storytelling.

2. changing things to make filming, editing, etc easier. Thats what happened in this movie; it was just easier to do things in certain ways.

thats not what made this film bad... those things can be overlooked when there is a real story , and compelling characters.

Pixar probably are the only storytellers I know of who could actually make the book of revelation into a good feature film. This is the mother of all adaptations and you dont give that kind of responsibility into the hands of writers like these guys.

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[–] doctorcrimedog 16 years ago

And according to the Bible, if goats have sex while looking at striped patterns, they'll give birth to striped baby goats. Yeah. Try and replicate that experiment.

It really doesn't matter if the Bible says something or not. It matters if the something is in any way rational.

-There is no such word as "alot."

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[–] tribalmaggot 16 years ago

well in a movie about the biblical apocalypse i would say that what the bible says is actually rather important. and since the bible is anything but rational i dont see why you would expect to see logic in a movie about it o_0

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[–] thesweetestperfection 14 years ago

yeeahhh..im gonna go ahead and need a scriptural verse on that one.

Signatures are only necessary if no ones ever heard of you

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[–] mattchanning 15 years ago

Only if you take the word of millenial dispensationalists like Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins.

Actual Biblical scholars with an understanding of historical and cultural context will tell you the dispensationalist viewpoint is utter hooey.

When in doubt, and faced with choosing the rantings of ignorant, jingoistic xenophobes or the opinions of scholars with an education in the matters at hand, not to mention an understanding borne of study and research they themselves have conducted, I'd say go with the scholar every time.

Matt Channing
Oscar quality film music at bargain basement prices.

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[–] okebaram77 17 years ago

I am a Christian. Really, Christianity is my pricest possession. And TBN is a wonderful Christian station (in some ways). However, I have to say that some of their movies, like this one, make me want to scream!! You should watch their movie "King of Kings" about Jesus. Horrendous!!

The only reason Omega Code isn't trash to me is because I'm afraid to say so.

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[–] wlgattis 17 years ago

you have to be a really brave Christian to defend this film. I am a Christian but I am not about to defend this movie. If you look at the Bible as a myth or as the word of God this movie does nothing to encourage people to take it (the movie) or the Bible seriously.
I have had better made movies that take a view I can't agree with that allow or maybe require me to think about their theology, philosophy, or even dogma and my own theo..,philo... and dogma because the film was well made. I don't see how that can happen with this film.

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[–] jws2000 17 years ago

LOL Atheists cry about everything. It's insecurity really, hating on everything else to validate one's own unstable belief system. It's a movie, calm down, nobody sat you down and forced you to watch it. As far as movies go, I saw it when it came out in the theater and thought it was fairly entertaining. Far from perfect, and it could have used some other elements, but overall good for giving that mystical end-of-the-world feeling.

What I learned from the Omega Code movies: The irreligious whine about everything, even motion pictures concocted for a specific audience by the free market. It's sad to think you sat down and wrote a list.

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[–] modschaegiebschen 17 years ago

well, if you walked on the street and accidently stepped into a piece of sh*t, wouldn't you be annoyed and feel an urge to complain? i sure do. and i find it perfectly understandable, if mgoldsmith did so, too.
i won't waste my time by writing a list of everything i dislike in a movie, but mgoldsmith's doing that has nothing to do with "atheists whining about everything". mgoldsmith isn't even "every atheist" (fortunately, because that would mean mgoldsmith is the only atheist and i don't wanna live in a world where there is only one of them).
i really don't think it's "sad" he wrote this list. it would be far sadder if nobody discussed this movie.
oh and for the "stepping into a piece of sh*t"-metaphor: imagine you accidently watch a movie (not accidently because you walked into the wrong cinema, but accidently because you were misinformed about the plot and intention of the movie, i.e. you expected it to be much better) that really stinks, maybe some really blunt antireligious propaganda or something similar that really bothers and disgusts you (racist or communist propaganda - i'm sure there is something that upsets you). isn't there a slight chance you would come here and complain?

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[–] lenny_kravitzro 16 years ago

"When Satan threatens to take over the world, it will be the USA that stands alone in trying to thwart him."
get a life

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[–] alfaneo 16 years ago

Why don't you get a life religious fundamentalist.

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[–] kviskobg 15 years ago

16. The Russians and the Chinese are always members of Satan`s army...how obvious.....for how long we are going to suffer from these stereotypes?

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[–] TonyDood 14 years ago

**The worst punishment satan gets is being sent back to hell (which is where he sort of lives and works anyway, isn't it?)**

Love is a naughty teenager who takes control of your feelings when you're asleep

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[–] Mithrandir-Olorin888 14 years ago

Cause Evil is never done in the name of something good I actually compare The Antichrist to Ozymandias from Watchmen.

"It's not about money.... It's about sending a Message..... Everything Burns!!!"

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