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Remake Starring Nicolas Cage


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How will they pull this off

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In the same way they pulled off Ringu, Dark Water, The Eye (up coming), Battle Royale (up coming), a hundred others, and for Nick Cage himself, Gone in 60 Seconds...

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with my luck, i never see the original films before they get remade.

but i did see this one.

wtf?!

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Pulled off Ringu, err did you actually watch them? The originals were many times better than the crap remakes. I really can't see how Battle Royale will be anything other than a waste of time as well. I guess Americans can't read and only like watching white actors.

This though sounds like a traditional thriller and I'm sure it will be watcheable.

ps. Gone in 60 Seconds can hardly be called a remake being that the only thing they have in common is car theft and the name. The car chase is about the only thing worth watching in the original, which is amazing.

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It almost makes me physically ill to see all of these fine-as-is foreign films being dumbed down and crapped out by Hollywood. Most Americans I guess really are just too stupid to read subtitles. (Note: I am American myself)

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This is dull.
Blah, blah, blah. The original is so much better.

Just like a person is innocent untill proven guilty. The film is not crap untill it is proven to be crap. Ie. after they've released it or when you've seen it. They might change it enough to be a new film in its own right.

I would say The Departed was diffrent enough to the original Infernal Affairs to warrant a good mention on the remake front.

So why not get off your horse at least until you've seen the "dumbed down" remake_ There was nothing particularly clever about the film so it would be quite hard to dumb it down.

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In all fairness to American remakes. If it weren't for the remake of Ringu it is doubtful whether all this interest in asian horror would of been generated. Speaking of Ringu neither the American or the Japanese film is entirely faithful to the Suzuki novel. Americans have done a great job with Ringu, Juon and Pulse. The only remake which I feel failed is Dark Water. Americans added too much to the story. It's an atmospheric thriller and should of been kept that way. Who knows how Cage will fair in a Bangkok Dangerous remake. I will say he's very good in action films , a lot will depend on the director.

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What are you talking about? The Departed was almost exactly the same as Infernal Affairs, it just had white people instead of Chinese people in it.

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I think it was different enough. I like both films.
ie. relationship between psychiatrist.

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That's true...the differences that were in the Departed were nothing major. I'd watch Infernal Affairs over the Departed any day though. And I'd watch Infernal Affairs 2 over Infernal Affairs. IA2 was such a phenomenal film, imo...the ensemble cast they had was amazing.

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I think it's more that they're too lazy. And that they just don't know about the originals to watch them. I agree that the foreign versions are usually a ton better. I think the bigger problem is that studios underestimate what viewing audiences might actually like. One movie with lots of action and special effects and minimal story comes out and is a hit and studios just assume that if they keep cranking those films out, audiences will be happy. I think a lot of people are to the point where they'd like movies with actual substance now. And me personally, also an American, I'd rather watch a foreign film with subtitles to see the original vision, the different cinematography styles, and acting instead of some tricked out Americanized version.

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Sorry to say, but those are all awful, awful remakes.

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I love how it is the collective 'Americans' that are wrong. It's not Hollywood's fault it is every single American's fault. Grow up.

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Guess where Hollywood is based? America.

Guess who it caters to primarily? Americans.

Guess who keeps the machine running, for good or for bad (in this case for bad), with their price of admission?

The stupid majority. Now, we've already established that the setting is America, so it stands to reason the stupid majority would consist of... Nigerians? No, not Nigerians. Americans. It IS the collective Americans that are wrong, because the majority of Americans support this *beep* by acting as a source of revenue for it and not for other cinematic endeavors.

Anything beyond that is pointless to discuss. In the supply and demand nature of capitalism and democracy, what the minority votes for and/or invests their money is, that's negligible. If you are a part of the minority you might as well not exist. Thus, it is completely correct to suggest it is "every single American's fault".

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Sorry, Taem, but you are wrong. Check out domestic versus international grosses for any major Hollywood release and you will see that, more often than not, the latter trumps the former. Hollywood has long been making films with their eye towards foreign admissions. For the Pirates movies, as well as most superhero movies, children's films, Michael Bay "films", etc., the non-USA gross was higher than the USA gross. Even an English-language remake like the Ring, grossed over 100 million overseas. People from all around the world thrust their money into the Hollywood coffers, prompting the studios to continue producing the dreck that they do. Thus, by your own logic, it is fair and correct to blame the entire world's movie-going audience for these terrible films, and not just the Americans.

Just to give you a bit of anecdotal evidence: when I was Paris, I decided to stop into a cinema to catch Das Leben der Anderen. I was nearly alone in my theater, while there was a line around the block to get into a screening of Epic Movie (inexplicably called "Big Movie" in France). Trust me, Americans don't have a monopoly on bad taste.

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Hey, guess who's movies don't make it to America except through a remake?
If the originals are so perfect, tell whoever makes them to try releasing them here, otherwise shut the hell up and let us have our "dumbed down" versions because the originals sure aren't show up until after the remake.
Americans aren't "too lazy to read"; it's simply annoying to waste the time to speed read the subtitles AND miss the action. If we wanted to read, we'd buy the book.

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@zekk4hire

If the originals are so perfect, tell whoever makes them to try releasing them here, otherwise shut the hell up and let us have our "dumbed down" versions because the originals sure aren't show up until after the remake.


The problem being that the cinema market is basically oligopolised. Have a look at Sweden (used to be alot of small establishments) which evolved to two larger chains (one considerbly larger than the other) but while two chains were up there was some diverse set of movies being displayed. Then after a few years of holding out the larger chain took over its competitor, it wasn't long until diversity in movies took a severe hit. Yes you can still find single cinemas that are not part of the large chains, but those are rare exceptions and not the rule.



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Watch the original, it'll help debating what is rational or not within the context.

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I love how you elitist pricks put down a movie even before you see it.
For your information douchbags, it 's being directed by the same two guys and it's not even a true remake.What?Momma didn't breast feed you and give you hugs when you were little?Awww!

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its not a remake at all is it?

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/Signed.

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I've seen the original and this does not look at all like it I wont call it a remake the only 2 similar things are the name of the movie and the main guy is a hitman thats all i wont even call it a remake

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Exactly. Fortunately this does not look like a direct remake. The characters and most of the storyline is quite different.

Though I don't see the necessity to call it Bangkok Dangerous as this will only incite negative 'this another fecking remake' attitudes towards it and could be damaging.

I suggest the thoroughly original 'One Night In Bangkok' as the title.

Any other suggestions?

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The remake is being directed by the same brothers who did the original. So it may be excellent.

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Well The Ring was the same guy too, and that was utter crap. If - as said above - this isn't a copy of the original and bares little resemblence then why the hell is it the same name? They won't be getting free advertising by using the name as no one knows Bangkok Dangerous exists.

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Why are they doing a sequel to Donnie Darko???

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The Ring was NOT the same director. The original was directed by Hideo Nakata. The remake was done by Gore Verbinski. Get you facts straight before posting.

The Ring Two was directed by Hideo again.

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Just got back from the remake, it's fairly crap.

After reading the synopsis, I want to see the real Bangkok Dangerous now...

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Hollywood always get to make crappy flicks out of great "foreign" films. It's almost a rule.

When I heard that a Hollywood remake of the original Bangkok Dangerous (IMO a mediocre movie) starring Nicolas Cage was about to be released, I thought: Finally Hollywood is gonna make a better flick than the original one!
How wrong I was. If the original Thai movie is mediocre, Hollywood's remake is even worse. Actually is nearly unwatchable.

Not even with the same director working in the remake, not even with a budget much bigger than the original, not even so they could produce a decent film.

At least the Thai version made some money and is considered a cult classic. In the other hand Hollywood's remake was a box-office flop.

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So we're talking about a movie so stupid that a long-time literate mute doesn't carry anything around to write on and complaining about a remake?

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