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Queer as Folk Marathon - Season 1 - Episode 16


Episode 116 Or, like I prefer to call it: YOU SO CARE ABOUT ME! 

I loved the first scene, especially the choice of using A MAN AND A WOMAN as a background to Michael and David’s frolicking on the snow, buying groceries… The title of the song says it all. I wish we had snow in Brazil!

Michael looks extra cute in this episode. Well, the love birds look so happy in those scenes! I can understand Michael’s frustration about David paying for everything, although David wants to do it. Michael doesn’t want to be his boy toy. As money means power, Michael is like a wife to David, in th eold traditional sense. Maybe this is the only way David can be in a relationship, when he’s in control. But IMO when two people are in a relationship, living together, it’s not about money, it’s about soul connection. So, who cares who pays for things?

As David says: “I can afford it, you can’t, so what’s the big deal?” David is generous and he wants to make Michael happy, he does everything he can so Michael doesn’t have to worry about anything. I guess it’s a little different with Brian and Justin. Brian is the one with power and money, but as I remember in their future relationship, money was never an issue to them, not even Brian being the one with the career and success. Maybe because Justin is so young, and still in school… I wonder who pays for Justin’s tickets and drinks in Babylon. Well, he makes a little money working in the diner.

That chocolate death cake makes my mouth water. Damn diet! 

I keep remembering that Mel made a financial sacrifice so Lindz could stay home take care of the baby, but she kept throwing her sacrifice on Lind’s face whenever she had the chance, so what kind of sacrifice was that? When you give something to the person you love, you don’t keep reminding them how great you are for doing it. So, in comparison, David is totally different from Mel. I like that he takes a little of Michael’s money, even though that’s clearly less than half. I think it’s fair that each partner contributes proportionally to how much money each one makes. However, Michael finds out later that David is not cashing his checks. The bank teller is one of the prettiest faces ever shown in QAF! What a HUNK!

Girls’ night at Babylon! Dyke’s night! Oh, hot! Mel seems a little lost lost trying to put herself out there. Emmett and Ted are very sweet to go to Babylon with her to support her. “The muncher mesh?”   She feels sad thinking about Lindsay.

OK, B/J’s cute car scene. Brian taking Justin to school? Hum, hum… it seems someone has been sleeping over a lot lately.  And when Justin complains that Brian drinks too much coffee, they look like an old married couple. Hahaha! Little Justin is really a genius for getting a high SAT score, despite all the problems he had with his family. And the boy applied to Ivy League colleges (does that mean his dad has lots of money?). Then the question: “Are you going out of State?” and then Brian looks the other way, pretending he doesn’t give a damn. So the blondie realizes how much Brian wants to know if he’s moving away from Pittsburgh. I think this is a historic moment in this relationship.

I have to say, it looks so strange for me seeing someone drive with one hand and hold a cup of coffee with the other hand! We have stick gear cars Brazil, so we you need both hands to drive.

I’d like to express my frustration and hate every time I see Justin being discriminated and humiliated by his school mates and teachers.  As someone who works in the education area, I think it’s unacceptable that the school won’t take any action against any kind of discrimination, especially homophobia. This is about education and socialization. What kind of human beings this school intends to release in the world? Bullies like Chris Hobbs? (I hate him too, by the way). We have lots of campaigns in Brazilian schools to help teachers to fight homophobia and to promote acceptance of each other’s differences in schools, as much as we have homophobic conservative right-wing groups fighting against LGBT rights.

And there goes Mel to Lindsay’s and… finds a French dude living there! Honestly this French guy storyline has to be one of the dumbest in this show. And a parade of clichés and French stereotypes. Like playing Edith Piaf when Gui opens the door. Like every French person is always listening to old music. And Gui saying that in France love affairs are meaningless. Another stereotype people keep repeating about the French. Anyway, what an obnoxious guy!

The locker room scene. Peter Paige’s gotta have the most beautiful body of the group! That locker room is the land of the earthly delights! I love when the four do things together, like going to the gym. Emmett to Michael:”Honey, it’s every gay boy’s dream to be a kept woman.” Lol’d when Melanie enters the locker room and the guys complain, but when Emmet says she’s a lesbian,everybody says: “Ok, then.” 

Debbie was very sweet to talk to Justin about what happened in school, and encourage him to stand up for himself, and supporting him at the Gay and Straight Students Alliance meeting. I think there’s an “Ooops” moment here. Debbie tells Justin her sister wouldn’t let her kids play with Michael because he was gay. This sister was never mentioned before and will never be mentioned again. In Season 4, Debbie mentions Vic’s the only sibling she has. So I suppose this sister does not exist.

A trip to Paris? First class tickets and to stay at George V with the man that you love? Who would refuse that? I think Michael made the right decision about Paris. But I think David should take Michael’s money, at least as much as Michael can pay his way. David tries to keep his relationship with Michael according to the straight model power structure. With him on top, of course. Anyway, I don’t think David and Michael’s sex scene was hot. 

I love that the whole gang goes to Lindz’s house to support Melanie, although Ted and Emmet give in to their desire to taste the enemy’s rabbit. I love that Brian picks Gus up from Guillaume’s arms as soon as he gets there, very territorial. The obnoxious French guy story line is totally out of character in my opinion. First I can’t see Lindsay sacrificing her future by marrying someone she hardly knows. And for what? To fight injustice? I don’t buy that. Since when she’s a human rights activist? Since when she’s a selfless woman who would do anything to help others?

And another thing I can’t understand. When Mel left, did she stop helping Lindz financially? What about Gus? Lindz mentions that Guillaume is helping her with the mortgage, besides, she had to come back to work. I thought they had bought the house together. Has Mel cut her off? And another strange thing in this scene: not once Mel took a look at Gus! A parent would pick him up immediately (which Brian did!). Lindsay was very unpleasant with Brian in the park. She could at least understand that he’s her friend, wants the best for her and knows she’s making a mistake.

I enjoyed very much the scene of the gang in Woody’s, again supporting Melanie, even Brian. How sad the boy’s memories about being bullied in school, when Justin tells them what happened to him. But Brian’s story’s a winner. This gives us a rough idea about how it’s like growing up as gay kid. The fear, the humiliation, the pain, the isolation. THAT’S GOTTA STOP. And again, I was totally surprised to hear Emmet say (at Woody’s) that “Lindsay is always taking care of others.” WHAT????????

Honestly I had difficulty paying attention to Brian and Justin’s conversation about the Gay and Straight Student Alliance. Wow, they look beautiful naked and Brian covering Justin’s body with little kisses... I’M SURE NO TRICK GETS THAT. Even when Brian gets up, I couldn’t concentrate either, all I could look at was his perfectly shaped behind dancing on the screen all the time!

I can’t even begin to say how much I loved the last scene. Brian willing to beat up Chris Hobbs to defend Justin, made me love them even more (if that’s possible). Brian was going to punch him. DON’T YOU DARE TO TOUCH MY BABY, YOU PUNK. Justin was very brave and courageous, I’m proud of him although we know that Chris Hobbs’ revenge will be ruthless . I thought it was sweet of Ted and Emmet to wait for Justin on the stairs after Hobbs left and Brian had already come in. They only entered Woody’s after Justin entered, just in case Hobbs would come back.

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Glad you've found the time to review this episode,



I have a considerably less charitable view of David paying for everything. But will agree that David never seems to use his money against Michael in a direct or conscious sense the way Melanie does with Lindsay.


It's actually rather sad that Mel hasn't been to Dyke Night since she's been with Lindsay. Don't these women have any nights out on the town? Being with someone else shouldn't mean you never go to a club again.

The Brian and Justin car scene is one of their best scenes and one of my favorite moments between them. They both look so beautiful.

You have groups advocating acceptance of homosexuality as well as groups campaigning against gays in Brazil at the same time and in the same areas? That sounds like it has the potential for a very volatile situation.

Edith Piaf might be a bit of a stretch, but there might be some truth to the love affairs comment.

Don't know if "Emmett" has the most beautiful body in the group, but it is pretty good. And I do appreciate his willingness to show it off.

Deb'd disappearing sister is just one of the many, many continuity errors this show incurs over time. As these things go, this is one of the smaller ones. What is a person to do but try to ignore them as much as possible.

I'm glad Michael will get to see Paris. But don't like the way David made it into a test, or an "either/or" situation. The trip was only contingent on Michael letting David pay for everything from then on out. David is using the Paris trip as a weapon, and that is wrong on more than one level.

Yes the bank teller is one of the best looking men they've had on qaf, which is saying a lot.

I can't remember Lindsay being the type to help others either. I have only noticed her self entitlement, and manipulation of both Melanie and Brian for her own ends.

Last episode when Lindsay said she had to go back to work it has implied that Mel was no longer supporting her and the baby. If this is the case, and it probably is, it does seem awfully heartless of Mel, even if she isn't the legal parent to Gus.

Agree that at the group visit to Lind's house, it would be more likely for Melanie to the baby up. But a guess would be that the creator's thought it would look better if Brian took Gus from Guillaume.(sp)? But I also love the detail of Ted and Emmett giving in to trying "the enemy's" food.

Brian and Justin talking about the gay/ straight alliance is one of their best sort of sex scenes together. And since practically every b/j scene is a sex scene in one way or another, that's saying something. But as good as this moment is, Brian's ass is not. Really think many of the people who insist Gale Harold has a great butt are just blinded to it's true unshapelyness by the beauty of his face.

I did like Brian standing in front of Justin to face Chris Hobbes. But even the first time seeing this with no spoilers, it was clear Justin had made a very bad move. And Brian telling Justin now he'd made a real enemy was a mirror of my own thoughts seconds before.


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It's actually rather sad that Mel hasn't been to Dyke Night since she's been with Lindsay. Don't these women have any nights out on the town? Being with someone else shouldn't mean you never go to a club again.

I don't think they do anything else other than staying at home, have dinner parties with other lesbian couples (considering there were so many lesbian couples in that baby shower they threw to a friend!). A couple of times we see Mel complaining. I think Mel started feeling on the side after Gus was born. Lindsay dedicate totally to the baby. Maybe this is what led Mel to cheating.

You have groups advocating acceptance of homosexuality as well as groups campaigning against gays in Brazil at the same time and in the same areas? That sounds like it has the potential for a very volatile situation.

Yes, we do and it does. Things are getting very complicated potically speaking. Yesterday we had a big national protest to support the president (mostly by workers and social movements). Tomorrow we're having a huge protest from middle class asking for the impeachement of the president. Respectively, left wing and right wing. Gay rights are mostly supported by the leftist protesters. Conservative protesters couldn't care less, except the religious bigots.

Edith Piaf might be a bit of a stretch, but there might be some truth to the love affairs comment.

It's all a matter of perspective, dergil. In my view, Americans are obssessed about other people's sexuality in comparison with other cultures. Two classic examples: the Clinton affair with that Monica Lewinski and the sexuall harassement case involving Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas. Those were in the news for months and it looked that Americans couldn't thing about anything else. Those cases would NEVER get this kind of attention had them occurred in Brazil (not even when they happen in politica circles), or maybe in Europe. I think this has got to do with a certain amount of puritanism in the American culture, maybe based on protestantism, not sure. Of course there is a lot of difference in way Americans see out of marriage affairs and the rest of the world sees it. You have a very particular culture, you know? (I'm assuming you are American)

Don't know if "Emmett" has the most beautiful body in the group, but it is pretty good. And I do appreciate his willingness to show it off.

Hahaha! I forgot to mention that only IMHO. Peter, Gale and Randy have bodies most likely to be considered beautiful in modern western culture. Hal and Scott have average looking bodies by this same culture's standards, I guess.

David is using the Paris trip as a weapon, and that is wrong on more than one level.

Yes, he is. Whereas he doesn't use his money power to control Michael, he ends up reproducing traditional gender roles.

Last episode when Lindsay said she had to go back to work it has implied that Mel was no longer supporting her and the baby. If this is the case, and it probably is, it does seem awfully heartless of Mel, even if she isn't the legal parent to Gus.

And considering that Mel's cheating is what ultimately ended their relationship.

But a guess would be that the creator's thought it would look better if Brian took Gus from Guillaume?

Yes, I agree. I think there's a masculinity competition here. If Guillaume were a woman, say Guillermina , Melanie would be the one picking the baby up. Thing is Guillaume does not represent a threat to Melanie, considering he is gay and Lindsay is a lesbian (well, sort of). But he represents a threat to Brian as another man who could be Gus' dad.

[bBut as good as this moment is, Brian's ass is not. Really think many of the people who insist Gale Harold has a great butt are just blinded to it's true unshapelyness by the beauty of his face.[/b]

Well, I have to admit that both Randy and Peter have better looking butts than Gale. Despite that, I wouldn't send him away!  And anyway, my eyes were glued to his ass this whole scene. But I agree that the beauty of Gale's face leads fans to stretch this beauty to his whole body.

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This episode marks the beginning of the set up for the finale. I felt that episodes 11-15 were nothing but filler, but this is where the meat starts. I love this episode simply for that car scene. Brian is falling in love with Justin at this point and there's no turning back. He seems shocked that he didn't know Justin was applying out of state which implies that Brian usually knows what's up in Justin's life. He gives himself away and then tries to backtrack. Brian won't outright tell a lie either, so when Justin confronts him about it, he can only tell Justin to get out of the car, but he never denies it. Just like in episode 2.06 - Debbie tells him he loves Justin and although Brian doesn't say it out loud, his silence confirms it.

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He seems shocked that he didn't know Justin was applying out of state which implies that Brian usually knows what's up in Justin's life.

Yes!! And apparently he thought the boy wouldn't apply for a college far away from him! That's young love!!! 

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If Justin wants golden gardenias, he should have golden gardenias! Brian Kinney

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