while Brian always


Tried to give the impression that he was always perfect but he was the most flawed one of them all. He had his heart closed and he built up so many walls that no one could break through. His true perfection was when his walls came down and he let love in. That was his saving grace.

The easiest thing i have ever had to do was give my heart.

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My perception of Brian has always been very different from other QAF fans and while I agree he had lot of issues, not the least of which not being able to express his feelings (or even know what he's feeling), I dislike the idea that he was considered 'cured' when he went for monogamy and marriage. To me, that was going against his character, being who he's not just to please someone else and I loved Justin's reaction in the "Cuddle scene" in season 5 for that reason.

Personally, I don't believe that romantic love and sex are related: yes, some people who are in love do have sex but people can have sex with someone they're not in love with and people can be in love with others without having sex. For me, sex has nothing to do with love, so I was always fine with Brian's 'promiscuity' because he's always been honest about it with his partners. To him, it was a recreational activity, lol.

Also, for me, monogamy and marriage don't make a lot of sense, and the older I get the less reasonable they become. So, seeing people argue that Brian became a better person when he proposed to Justin makes me feel as if my world is upside down. I rarely got to relate to any character on TV on this level (and that's why I'm still obsessed with this show), so it really irks me when people wanna see him like all those already available characters who 'repent' at the end, turn monogamous, get married, have children, etc.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there are already too many monogamous, romantic, marriage-oriented shows and characters out there. I love that in QAF, at the end, Brian and Justin acknowledge their feelings, Justin understands that while he's monogamous, Brian isn't and was fine with that. The older I get the more I like that ending.

Sorry if I digressed, I just felt like giving my two-cents about one of Brian's most discussed 'flaws' but I do agree with your statement:
His true perfection was when his walls came down and he let love in. That was his saving grace.
if you mean 'love' as in all kinds of love (family, friends, romantic partners, etc.)

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Yes that's exactly how I meant it having nothing to do with marriage or sex. It was just plain pure love that Justin melted his heart with. He touched him in all corners of his soul. And although Brian lived his life on the edge he was scared to death. Justin made him feel safe. I don't think that marriage and monogomy was out of character. He was just growing up and accepting that it was ok to give his heart to someone without fear of him breaking it.

The easiest thing i have ever had to do was give my heart.

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I don't think that marriage and manogomy was out of character. He was just growing up and accepting that it was ok to give his heart to someone without fear of him breaking it.


I disagree with this because it implies that marriage and monogamy are a sign that someone "grew up." I agree that Brian was finally able to open up and give his heart to someone, but becoming monogamous/marriage aren't necessary to prove that and I believe that Justin's reaction confirms that. I do see monogamy/marriage as out of character for Brian probably because that's one of the things I relate to and love the most about him, lol. If you take that away, he and I will hardly have anything left in common! 😖

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I think I should have worded it better. I should have said by facing his deepest commitment fears is something that an adult does. He was trying very hard not be selfish any more. Thinking of someone else for a change. That was
the growing up I was referring to.

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Oh I see, thank you for clarifying 😊

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My pleasure.

The easiest thing i have ever had to do was give my heart.

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I'm glad you clarified the ending. I was really let down with those two not making it, but Brian wasn't himself I'm glad the characters in the end stayed true to themselves.

I also liked that the show had good relationships that weren't always good but true love found its way back every time. It's nice to see.

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I'm all for monogamy if that's your choice. Thought it's not mine and I believe it's antithetical to male homosexuality.

I admired Brian's philosophical opposition to same-sex marriage. And I didn't see the later episodes of QAF where Brian buckled and accepted it. But I suspect that was more a part of the show's producers and their mainstream LGBT politics, then really true to his character. Brian would have never married.

I don’t care about marriage though. I consider it to be optional in a relationship and don’t fully understand the need for it.


I'll go further than that. It's a conservative plot devised by gay Republicans (read up on Andrew Sullivan, the real founder of "gay" marriage). It's an attempt by heterosexuals to curb our independence and tie us to the heteronormative treadmill of marriage and child rearing. Don't get me started on the travesty of "gay" adoption of infants.

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Why do you believe it’s antithetical to male homosexuality?

Not every gay man is ok with their partner having sex with others. It’s completely natural and human to not like the idea of your partner being intimate like that with someone else.

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I'm queer and the biggest proponent for LGBT rights. I just don't think traditional marriage is one of them. It's a heterosexual institution centered around raising children. Sure we can adopt. But in reality, few of us do.

I believe this is more an attempt by conservative homosexuals to make us all conform to traditional morality. I prefer the freedom of no social expectation of marriage.

I'm all for monogamy when people choose it. And we can still enter into domestic partnership contracts.

I see this as an issue of conformity and social regulation.

We want to change society, not abide by pseudo-religious traditions.

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