Tupac....but no Big L?


Don't get me wrong I love Tupac's music, but he wasn't half the freestyler Big L was, that's disappointing to leave Big L off this documentary when he was basically known for freestyling and block battling. Or am I one of the lucky few that actually followed Big L?

RIP Big L, Tupac, ~1

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I havn't seen this film yet, however i am about to watch it today... Big L was a dope rhymer, as well as tupac. I've heard some of Big L's supposed freestyle's, such as the 98' freestyle where he's in the studio and rips out some really ingenious and hilarious rhymes, such as, "And mad ho's, ask beavis, I get get nothing but head"... But from what I heard in the those freestyles (lyrics), i've heard in other songs that Big L already recorded.. (Some we're unreleased) so most or some of it was not geniunely freestyling.. Are there any other freestyles from Big L that you find geniune that you recommend listening to?

Anyway, pac was more well known (obviously) then Big L and it's probably because the director/whoever just didn't know of, know much or had little or no archive footage of Big L.. After all the only footage i've seen is where he is doing an interview at a radio station, and him and AZ and a few others do a few bars for the radio station.

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Well, Big L has a kind of huge following, so I was disappointed in not seeing him on the documentary, but anyway... Big L was known for freestyling through his battles on the corner and then his recorded tracks, as you already talked about. Most of his freestyles had the lines then he recycled them into his songs. I can help you out with the Big L tracks though, as I happen to be a Big L follower and have most of his work. Hardpack 125 Freestyle is three verses of all-new/unused material from previous work by Big L which is just dope. Ain't No Half Stepping Freestyle by Big L/Lord Finessee. If you heard of only the 98 Freestyle, it's probably only his first verse, his second verse is better. But anyway, I uploaded alot of Big L tracks, so if you want you can listen to them here.

Listen to...
Hardpack 125 Freestyle
Ain't No Half Steppin
98 Freestyle (Full Version)
DJ 279 Freestyle
Kay Slay Freestyle
Sandman 118 Freestyle
92 Freestyle
91 Freestyle

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=432065
That's the link to alot of Big L tracks/freestyles...

If you can find the underground Big L VHS tape (it might be on DVD?), it has live battles - all freestyles, nothing re-used. If I knew had to get it, I'd post those up, hard *beep*

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Actually a lot of Big L's verses in songs are from freestyles and were later used into songs. A lot of people don't realize that and I don't blame them its usually the other way around.

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That link doesnt work anymore, but are any of those real off the head freestyles? I only have 98 Freestyle, 7 Min Freestyle with Jigga and two freestyles with CoC, and they all seem prewritten to me.. And he might be well known for batteling, but I dont know if any of those got caught on videotape.

And to OP;
why even compare Pac and Big L? Just because they're both dead? There's lots of good freestyle MCs that barely got mentioned..

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big l *beep* on everybody on this dvd.

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Playing an Instrument or Singing takes real talent and skill, speaking the words to a poem with some noise playing in the background takes Zero Talent, which is why any moron with a tape recorder can produce rap., it is garbage, plain and simple.

“Do not fear death... only the unlived life.” - Natalie Babbitt

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You just proved what kind of person you are by going out of your way to make a negative comment that had no relation to the actual topic at hand, thanks for your unwarranted cynisism photoseller... now go turn up that toby keith record.

Oh and Big L? best freestyles ive ever heard, and by definition (according to KRS-1) a freestyle doesnt have to be pre-written, just a live performance done impromptu... im sure the definition has changed since KRS said that though.

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I take it that Toby Keith is a country singer, sorry your little stereotype does not quite fit me, I do not care for most country music, I prefer Rock, Jazz, Soul and Blues music for the most part, you know music that takes talent to perform.

“Do not fear death... only the unlived life.” - Natalie Babbitt

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To truly create a rap you have to have loads of talent. It might look easy because now days it SEEMS like any joke can put out a record, but to be a great MC it takes something special. Oh and all these rappers now days should realize where this hip hop "thing" came from *cough cough* Gil Scott Heron *cough cough* Last Poets.

Oh and Big L was beast at freestyling. Too bad he died at a young age.

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Photoseller....write a song, make a beat, rap in sync to the beat, and upload it for us all to hear. If the song is amazing, I will never listen to hip hop ever again in my life. If you can't do that, SHUT THE *beep* UP and get out of here.

Good things come to those that wait? Bullsh*t, better things come to those that chase...-Canibus

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No I never compared them, I just asked the question why have 'Pac and leave off L. there isn't anything to compare between these two. Different styles, different kind of rappers.

"There's lots of good freestyle MCs that barely got mentioned.."

And that's exactly why I asked. I could've listed several but at the time had big L playing... just a general open question.

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alot of his freestyles quality were not DVD wise

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