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Which was best.Live 8 or Live Aid.


Personaly i think the original was the best though Live 8 was a great show.What do you guys think.

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For me....

Live Aid (1985) was better.

It doesn't mean that Live 8 wasn't cool, i really enjoyed it, but i prefeer Live Aid better

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You can only judge which was better based on the successes of the causes that they were organised for.

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you can judge which you thought was best.. and mainly which one had the better bands and music.

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Are you serious, Live 8 was absolutly terrible. It compared in now way to Live Aid.

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Live Aid for sure...even though the Philly show wasn't as strong. Live 8 was OK at best except for Pink Floyd of course.

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pink floyd, the who and stevie wonder were all very good. but it still just couldnt compare.

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live 8 easy

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Live aid it was great seeing zeppelin again

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I could have watched more than 30 minutes of Live 8....
If all the hosts had actually SHUT UP and let the artists play instead of interrupting the music. A lot of the songs were barely to the second verse when these talking heads felt the need to cut off the performance from the stage and reiterate what Bob Geldof had already said. And Bob said it better, and in far fewer words.

Buy the DVD of the 1985 concert. It's well worth the $30.

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Hear hear! The worst moment was when REM were on stage. The BBC cut away from their performance to a banal interview.

While Pink Floyd was an outstanding highlight, Live Aid scores for me by a long way because the performances were free from interruption, and were almost all live; none of this constant "Here's so and so who performed earlier" which kicked in for Philly. I know that happened with Live Aid, but far less.

Oh yes, Live Aid was also blissfully free of Spinal Tap, I mean Velvet Revolver.

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Live Aid rocked. The thing that sticks out to me is the longevity of the bands at the original as compared to Live 8. Most of the bands in 1985 were MASSIVE stars and continued on for years after. Most at Live 8 have not made that much of an impact(Yes, there were some big names). I also venture to say that most of these bands will quickly be forgotten. Live 8 was a dissapointment. I especially was disappointed with Pink Floyd. I know that is sacrilege, but they were a big let down. Just my opinion.

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In 1985 I was visiting my parents in germany. I remember the news bulletins at the time talking about the show. I was 20 back then but even before the show i felt electric. These where the bands of my era. The other thing I was thinking about was Woodstock.

There are sertain moments in music that are fundemental. Woodstock was one of them. It became famous worldwide mostly after it happened. Remember TV coverage these days was not as it was during the 80s (let alone 05'). When Live Aid happened most countries did not have cables. In germany at the time if I recall correctly there were only 5 TV channels to choose from. That was critical since alternatives were few. I was waiting for days and had a party with my friends and family celebrating the concert. At 2005 in the states there were 900+ channels to choose from on some packages but if you wanted you could even avoid hearing about live8 all together.
That wasn't the case in 1985. The world realy became smaller that day and ever since.

Ironically, you could not fly from one concert and appear on the other side of the Atlantic at the 'same' concert in 2005. Phil Collins did it in 1985.

Last note. A personal belief. Unfortunately music had not developed/changed that much from 85 to 05 (Referring to Live8 music - mainstream music). Definiately changed from 69 to 85. Just something to think about.

Cheers.

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I loved Live 8, but admit to skipping through the various BBC feeds during the day. If somebody crap was on in Berlin (say Chris DeBurgh) there would be Snoop Dogg in London or Placebo in Paris.

That said, Live 8 Philly was pretty poor. Like London it had a slightly strange bill, but while Live 8 London was entertaining in it's eclectism, Philly was boring, staid, and in need of some genuine superstars (with Madonna, Paul McCartny, Pink Floyd, Robbie Williams, Coldplay, U2, Elton John, even Keane, the Scissor Sisters, and Snoop Dogg the London bill could hardly be described as lightweight)





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Live Aid without question! 21 (almost 22) years later and people are still talking about it.

Live 8 was disposable with the exception of Pink Floyd.


Will people be talking about Live 8 22 years from now? Time will tell but I highly doubt it.

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Really? Pink Floyd were DULL. They played the wrong songs. I mean boring old "Breath" instead of "Another Brick In the Wall Part.2"? Plus "Money" has always been crap. But it's in 7/8 time people cry! Well woop-skippy-do it is still dated MOR radio dreck.

The Who, Snoop Dogg (a 17 minute medley of his 5 biggest hits with copious audience participation? Remind you of anyone at Wembley Live Aid 1985? Snoop rocked Live 8 London and anyone who disagrees is simply a silly rock or indie snob), Madonna (a contrived set I know, but entertaining none the less), and even Annie Lennox blow them out of the water.

That said, while Live 8 was definatly better than Live Aid, the lack of black British at Live 8 London was a disgrace, especialy as Jamelia, Beverley Knight (played Live8 Edinburgh), Miss Dynamite (token 2 songs at Live8 London), Lamar, Dizzi Rascal, and the Sugarbabes (played Live8 Edinburgh) all did lead vocal turns on the 2004 Band Aid 20 single.





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Really? Pink Floyd were DULL. They played the wrong songs. I mean boring old "Breath" instead of "Another Brick In the Wall Part.2"? Plus "Money" has always been crap. But it's in 7/8 time people cry! Well woop-skippy-do it is still dated MOR radio dreck.


Wtf are you talking about man, Breathe is a MUCH better song than ABITW. I'm just happy they didn't perform any of The Wall, as it's not my favorite album of theirs.

You're full of sh-t.


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Well, sorry I upset you Degree7

Maybe in the context of DSotM Breathe is a better song than Another Brick In the Wall Part 2, but I feel that ABITWp2 would have worked much better in the Live 8 context.

--- "I'm just happy they didn't perform any of The Wall, as it's not my favorite album of theirs." ---

Pink Floyd Live 8 set list:

Breathe
Money
Wish You Were Here
Comfortably Numb

Your memory fails you Oldman ;-)

--- "You're full of sh-t." ---

Grow up.




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but I feel that ABITWp2 would have worked much better in the Live 8 context.


You mean possibly their most popular and overplayed song, and just about the only piece of music anyone even bothers mulling over when concerning Floyd? The song that adolescent girls and hipsters play at school events when it makes me want to slap someone? Yes, that would have worked fine... :-/

Btw, Comfortably Numb doesn't count as Wall material, it's got too much Gilmour in it. I was just glad they didn't play 'Run Like Hell' or 'Young Lust'.

Grow up.


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--- "Btw, Comfortably Numb doesn't count as Wall material, it's got too much Gilmour in it." ---

What an unbelievably dumb thing to say. Bet you like Eric Clapton as well...

--- "You mean possibly their most popular and overplayed song, and just about the only piece of music anyone even bothers mulling over when concerning Floyd? The song that adolescent girls and hipsters play at school events when it makes me want to slap someone? Yes, that would have worked fine... :-/" ---

01 - Their most popular and overplayed song is without question "Money"

02 - You strike me as someone who (even if you are school age, which you probably are) has probably never even been to a school event, or if they did you stood at the side of the hall feeling sad that all the girls were ignoring you.

03 - You describe it as their most popular song, yes? So if they're are playing a one-off reunion concert in front of 225,000 people as well as probably being broadcast live on every one of the 100+ TV channels taking the Live 8 concerts around the world wouldn't it make sense to play possibly their most well known and popular song?

Maybe they should have came on and played, oh I don't know, the following set list...

Interstellar Overdrive
Scream Thy Last Scream
The Fletcher Memorial Home
Seamus
Not Now John

Now that would have absolutely rocked wouldn't it? But I have a feeling that by the 2nd verse of "Scream Thy Last Scream" people would have been turning off in their tens of millions. So instead they played the opening song from their biggest (indeed one of the biggest selling of all time) LP followed by 3 of their best know songs. What I was saying was that there was space for another of the most popular songs.

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I repeat: GROW UP







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What an unbelievably dumb thing to say. Bet you like Eric Clapton as well...


Because you know I'm right.

Their most popular and overplayed song is without question "Money"


Try this, go up to anyone, absolutely anyone, and sing "We don't need no education, we don't need no forced control.... teacher, leave those kids alone."

I guarantee that that said someone will know that line.

Then go up to them and hum the bassline for Money while singing, "Money... it's a gas."

Think they're gonna recognize that one as much as the above?
Without a doubt, Another Brick in the Wall is their most popular and well known song all over the world. I think they even got a grammy nomination for it in 1980. Which is more than can be said for the rest of their material, save for Marooned.

You strike me as someone who (even if you are school age, which you probably are) has probably never even been to a school event, or if they did you stood at the side of the hall feeling sad that all the girls were ignoring you.


This might be a rather bold thing to say, but you strike me as someone who turns rather nasty when someone starts proving them wrong.

wouldn't it make sense to play possibly their most well known and popular song?


It seems you feel about Money the same way I feel about ABITW. Despite Money recieving a lot of radioplay, it is still a great song. ABITW is just a Water's ego trip that was never that great to begin with.

Interstellar Overdrive
Scream Thy Last Scream
The Fletcher Memorial Home
Seamus
Not Now John


Right, two of those songs are off of the Final Cut, while the rest is Syd Barrett material.

Seamus would have been a great addition though. It's vintage pre-DSOTM Floyd. But alas, they only had room for about five songs for the concert.









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--- This might be a rather bold thing to say, but you strike me as someone who turns rather nasty when someone starts proving them wrong. ---

Coming from someone who ends their first comment with "You are full of *beep* and their second one with what looks like a penis...

--- It seems you feel about Money the same way I feel about ABITW. Despite Money recieving a lot of radioplay, it is still a great song. ---

The best thing about "Money" is that it got a record containing the word *beep* 35 years of regular radio play. That said The Who and The Kicks both respectively sneaked "fu*k" and "fu*king" onto two of their biggest 70's hits so maybe that ain't such a thing to be proud of...

--- Right, two of those songs are off of the Final Cut, while the rest is Syd Barrett material. ---

But they're the two best ones aren't they? I think my dream set list would have been much better than what they played. I do think if they'd played "ABITW2" their Live 8 set would have been better.

Oh about "Seamus". The side 1 label credits of my copy of "Meddle" reads "Roger Waters, David Gilmour, Richard Wright, Nick Mason"






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Coming from someone who ends their first comment with "You are full of *beep* and their second one with what looks like a penis...


I should have rephrased that... your comment was full of sh-t.
And that was definitely not a penis.

And Money is an awesome track with an awesome saxophone solo and an absolutely AWESOME breakdown. ABITW just really has the well known chorus line, although there is a great guitar solo in it as well.



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--- "that was definitely not a penis" ---

Just out of curiosity what is it then?






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To the casual fan, I think ABITW Part 2 is Pink Floyd's most recognizable song. However, it's still great, as is Money. (I mean seriously, how do you not like Money?)

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Oh - what I DO remember about Snoop was the head-in-hands moment at 18:28 on the Saturday on BBC1... kids' teatime.... "What's my mofo name"...

Loads of calls in to complain - everyone else in STITCHES...

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Yeah, I remember a few months later the BBC having to air an apology for the pre-watershed use of strong language by Madonna, Velvet Revolver, U2, Green Day and Snoop, though strangely no one seemed to notice that during an interview (a drunk?) Peter Kay, in possibly his funniest TV moment since the first series of "Phoenix Nights", asked Joss Stone how old she was when she sold her soul to the Devil. A somewhat confused Joss promptly replied with "Did I!? Oh bollocks!" before descending in giggles.

My big Snoop memory though comes from watching the TV coverage and seeing the camera cut to the celebrities congregating in the front of stage. Among them, and I am sure quite deliberately picked out by the director, was a very unimpressed looking David Baddiel. I must have rewound that shot about 10 times as it seemed just so incongruous for him to be there in the first place and the expression on his face was priceless...

Viewing it later I also noticed Ricky Gervais stood right behind him with an express that seemed to be saying "God this is loud and/or tuneless. Oh S#%& they're pointing a camera at me must look like I'm enjoying it!". And to the left of shot was David Frost (!!!!!!!!) sat on the ground and resting against the crowd barrier with his head framed by the generous breast of a young woman wearing a Union Flag (Union Jack if you must...) bikini top.

Truly a once in a lifetime shot and respect to the stage director who chose to broadcast it. Just seeing David Baddiel was funny, but Ricky, the boobs, and especially Frostie just being there at that moment meant it really tickled me.



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I wasn't born yet when they showed Live Aid >_<

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Live 8 wansnt as good as Live Aid. The only good part about Live 8 was all the older bands comming out and playing.

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Live Aid was better because it was thrown together fast, and the flaws it had actually made it more eurphoric.

whereas Live8 was well planned and the crowd were terrible. (acted like spoilt people only there to see their fav bands, anything else didnt matter)

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Really? I thought Live 8 kicked Live Aid's arse. Addmitedly a lot of really big artists who were asked to appear at Live 8 declined to appear for various reasons (Eminem, David Bowie, Oasis, Gorillaz, Jeniffer Lopez, the Rolling Stones all come to mind), but the bill was still amazing.

That said how the *beep* R.E.M., the Who and UB40 (all 3 of whom were good) kept their undeserved slots at Hyde Park, while the Cure (a classic and well loved band) and Muse (who are let's forget Britain's biggest international rock band, Coldplay excepted) where both shifted to Paris is a mystery, especialy as their "alt rock" leanings would probably have brought in more views than the above 3 (the Who should have played Philly or Berlin, their place on the London bill stunck of Harvey indulging Geldof)






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Oh, you again, eh?

"Nothing will come close to Live Aid for various reasons- it's originality (all the others all copies)"

Yes Live Aid was the first high profile charity concert for famine relief ever. Oh just a minute, a very quick web search brings up these 2 famous examples:

THE CONCERT FOR BANGLADESH.
Date : 1972. Venue : Madison Square Garden. NYC
Cause : raise money for Bangladesh.

Badfinger
Eric Clapton (at Live Aid)
Bob Dylan (at Live Aid)
George Harrison
Billy Preston
Leon Russell
Ravi Shankar
Ringo Starr
Klaus Voorman


CONCERTS FOR THE PEOPLE OF KAMPUCHEA.
Date : September, 26-27-28-29th, 1979. Hammersmith Odeon (London, UK)
Cause: raise money for Kampucha.

Elvis Costello & The Attractions (at Live Aid)
Gerry Brooker
Ian Dury & The Blockheads
Matumbi
Paul McCartney & Wings (at Live Aid)
Pretenders (at Live Aid)
Queen (at Live Aid)
Robert Plant & John Paul Jones & John Bonham (at Live Aid)
Rockpile
Ronnie Lane
The Clash
The Specials
The Who (at Live Aid)

And again, why the aggressive patronizing tone? And yes obviously I know neither the Attractions, Wings, nor John Bonham were at Live Aid, but Elivis Costello, Paul McCartney, Robert Plant and John Paul Jones where.






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OK. If we're in the business of pointing out slight gramatical errors (which is how this whole LOL debate between us two started):

Your message isn't actualy clear as to where you were a techician. It can be read as you being a technician at Kampuchia, Bangladesh, or Live Aid. I'll hazard a guess that you mean Live Aid, and frankly I'll I can say is "So what? Somebody had to do it".

I have 2 genuine facts myself:

01 - Overall Live 8 had much better music than Live Aid, and...
02 - the initial idea behind Live 8 was more ambitious and far reaching than Live Aid's (eliminate poverty in Afric vs feed Africa for a week or 2, no contest really)






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01 - And why would you presume that I would care that you were (once?) a roadie or technician or whatever?

02 - If you want anal can I point out that "Afric" was a spelling mistake, not a grammatical error.

03 - Why are you so *beep* agressive?






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