into a bloody soap opera. A perfect movie of the unbearable grief of losing a child/losing a parent--Moments in time which are too hard to explain and take so much time to get over--usually never truly getting over the grief. This movie was on its way to showing these things but???????????? Why was it turned into a hokey piece of daytime soap towards the end???
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Wow someone agreed with me finally. Thanks ctomvelu. The movie could have been a superior movie but once again the quick buck and the underestimating of the viewers intelligence turned it into tripe.The first half excellent. Why did they have to make the son's psychologist a paedophile--the murders were unwarranted the point at which the movie became cliché as you said ctomvelu was when the murder occurred in the rail yard. I am amazed that a self proclaimed psychologist(the person who did the movies initial review was so taken with this garbled crap.
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i would have liked the movie a lot more if garcia's son hadnt had a really obvious reason for why he killed himself. i think it would have been more honest and dealt with a more real and painful situation.
and i agree about the overly dramatic ending. it sucked.
EDIT: You know what, I just realized I misread your post. I apologize. Just ignore my comments.
But nobody kills themself for just one reason. It's a lot of things that build up, sometimes things that other people can't even recognize. He seemed very depressed and it wasn't unrealistic at all for him to commit suicide. Oh, I just realized that the boy's therapist was molesting him. That's as good a reason as any. I guess it was easy to miss though because I missed it too at first.
Plus, if he lived, there wouldn't be much of a movie. His death was the motivation for Andy Garcia's character to grieve and take on the patient Teri Polo brings to him. I felt like the whole movie dealt with everything in a very realistic way. Great movie.
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The psychologist wasn't a pedophile. Tommy's mother sexually abused him. The movie was about how that experience affected this kid as he grew up. The murder and violence were necessary because they showed how screwed up he was after what his mother did to him. He couldn't handle any girl touching him. The ecstacy girl was all over him and he couldn't deal with it except to act out against her. Same with the psychologist lady. She was acting motherly toward him which wasn't something he could handle rationally based on his experiences.
It started out with the death of Andy Garcia's son, but started to go in another direction as the movie progressed. Andy's character saw his dead son in Tommy. It was kind of messing with his head their similarities. If the movie was only about his grief over his son, then it would have been pretty boring. I think it did a great job showing the loss he felt and the destruction of his family and then how he is able to bring himself out of it by focusing on this other boy who needs his help.
I think you misunderstood the point of the movie. I thought it was very well made and accomplished everything it set out to accomplish.
EDIT: Whoops, I didn't realize that Kyle (Andy Garcia's son) was molested by his therapist. I didn't catch that part. That would explain his suicide.
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"Quick buck." Yeah, child abuse really sells...
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There were only a couple scenes in the movie that I didn't like. The one where he ran up to Tommy on the train tracks is what made me rate it a 9 instead of a 10 -- it was downright awful, and did not fit in the movie at all.
Firstly if Tommy had been wanting to die right that time then he would have kept running full-speed forward (off the track so as to not alert the train) until he was close and then jumped in front.
Secondly the train saw him long before he was anywhere near the train, which wasn't even moving very fast and had only 5 or so cars on it. The train operator would have had no trouble at all stopping the train before hitting the kid. People seem to think that "trains can't stop", which is very true if there are a hundred or so cars and a lot of momentum, but a train that size (tiny) going at city speeds is no different than a large semi.
Thirdly there were several cop cars and a ton of cops there, they would have surrounded them during the 5 minutes he was talking to him (also, they would not likely have let him go up to the kid with the gun in the first place). Magically the whole other side had not one cop.
Fourthly the train would have seen the lights on the cop cars and would then obviously have slowed right down.
All that adds up to one completely stupid and unbelievable scene.
However, I disagree about it turning into a soap opera. I thought all the characters were well-developed and quite believable.
i personaly think him running into the train was a waste.if they wanted the ending with the ball thing or w.e it could have ended with them hugging i think that would have been good. but after he started killing all those ppl u get bored..did he kill that kid troy too?
sharewell, those Hollywood sickos are obviously OBSESSED by this subject (more than filmakers in Europe, but well, of here we have to imitate everything that America has done before....)
shareCrap movie. Someone here gave it a what... a 9!? Don't you ever get tired of this mound of *beep* they throw at us each time, expecting us to be so gullible as to accept this utter nonsence as even vaguely plausible? A total failure in every aspect. A nice fat zero.
shareYou must be a total dumb a** to think the movie "The Unsaid" is a total failure. Everybody who saw it & people I know who saw it loved the movie. So what's the matter you?
shareAs always you will find the sad *beep* you will attempt to save the unsavable.
The Unsaid is - i reiterate it again a TOTAL FAILURE. It offered absolutely nothing new, it was the same old boring stuff offensive to the thinking mind.
Theme:Childhood trauma (again!) bla bla bla. It was hilarious the way the mother prepared her 'romantic encounter' with her lover-son. I mean with candles and soft music and yes even wine. Sure a young kid will always appreciate these goodies. Pathetic!
Also very very plausible and totally not banal was the totally unexpected twist of the sad dude befriending his shrink's daughter.
The daughter was of course rooted in teenage rebellion. Surprise Surprise. She even tries to elope with him.
Car chases ... police chases. Yawn Yawn Yawn.
So it fails badly cos its just a sad bundle of cliches and its plot is, to put it tersely just a mass of deja-vu idiocies.
Of course producers will keep dishing the same soup. If unreedemable mental retards like you and the persons within your social circles can appreciate this rubbish - why should they change it?! Have a nice day moron.
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Expected nothing more of such a primitive mind.
Exposing your gross ignorance was the least daunting of tasks.
wtf? This movie was GREAT, it really opened up alot of emotions inside of me and stirred some actual thought instead of today's trite. I was expecting cheers for such a thriller instead I hear inane grumblings on how Hollyhood sold-out the depression community.
Tell us, hades11381 & others, what exactly do you know about depression of the sort? This movie is not some Saturday morning soap opera, this is a REAL subject in today's youth. Did you know that suicide is highest among young people? To put out a movie like this was a fantastic idea because most teens are too afraid to go out and talk to someone else. Not only that, but it reached out to minds unaware of trouble kids like these as well.
To say that this movie is a "TOTAL FAILURE" is the most ignorant statement to have come across your pointy little head from you YET. And pulling one's strings via forum troll-esque (which I have read from your recent postings) is as primitive as racial insultation and human degradation. In short, you all should quit being such sour mouths and just take your weak trite somewhere else.
Here here cs1323!!!!!!
An excellent film with great performances throughout - especially from Garcia, and a thoughtful, unpredictable plot.
I may not be an expert but I know what I like!!
I remember the first time I saw it, I only saw the first ten minutes because I always check to see what's on Lifetime before I go to Law & Order: SVU...I was intrigued by the suicide part and wanted to know what led up to it, but when you miss chunks of a movie you're totally lost, so I waited until it was on again and watched it the whole way through. I have to say I was interested, and for being the huge Special Victims Unit fan I am, I expected something sex-related to be the cause of the messes. I agree with Honesty, jeff-exorcist and cs1323.
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The girl that he met at the rave and beat up...she was found dead. No Explanation.
How the heck did he get Troy's red car away from him? No explanation. I really liked this movie but I really hate "loopholes"! Also how tacky was that for the mom to have candles, wine and soft music playing so she could "molest" her 10 year old son.
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i actually kinda liked how the audience is left with a question as to how tommy got troys car. did he steal it? kill troy for it? i read somewhere that a deleted scene has tommy killing troy however...
tommy having troys car was also the first thing garcia's daughter noticed as being rather strange, and she states this straight away. this tells us she could be soon regretting getting in the car with him.
great movie!
At one point, I actually thought that Andy Garcia's son was having the affair with Tommy's mother. For a second I was convinced he killed himself because he felt responsible for the woman's death. Then I realized I misunderstood. That would have been an interesting twist though.
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LMAO, that would've made for a much better film, this pile of shite stunk throughout.
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