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TOO MANY SUB-PLOTS

posted 21 years ago by JOHNA9999
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except for the nude scene, I think this movie went in too many directions. did any of the characters have a happy ending?? The rich friend was only thrown in to provide a swimming pool to set the conflicts which the youngest daughter had to deal with, and to justify the later community pool scene. Surely, some other less artificial situation could have been created to reflect the little girl's dual problem (weight and color). The daughter being arrested for making out with a teenager, and the way it was resolved - come on now!!. Fantastic coincidence that the girl walked to McDonald's and the older sister just happened to go there also. Talk about suspending disbeleif!!

[–] Husker4theSpurs 21 years ago

Does life always have a happy ending?

[–] lordjin 20 years ago

You couldn't suspend your disbelief, yet you want to see happy endings? Make up your mind (if you have one). I'm sick to death of arm-chair critics like you who think they know something about narrative technique. Do you want reality or happy endings? Pick one. Here's a news flash, reality seldom has anything to do with 'happy endings.' You want reality? Why don't look out your window? There's pain, abuse, abandonment, rape, murder, and the smell of urine and fecal matter. Is that what you consider entertainment? Moreover, reality is often so fantastic and unlikely that it would make for outlandishly unrealistic fiction. Needless to say, your 'review' is exceptionally moronic. Lovely and Amazing is a character study examining the very flawed nature of human insecurity. Did you even get any of that? Or were you blinded by your 'concerns against coincidence?' Sadly, the idiotic masses, comprised of idiotic individuals (like yourself) control the industry by way of demographic research and marketing analysis. This makes it extremely difficult for the many talented screenwriters out there to get their work made into films. Thanks a lot, dumb-ass.

[–] TerminalMadness 20 years ago

A little too apprehensive about a mediocre movie arent you?

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[–] MelanieD403 20 years ago

apprehensive? might you mean 'defensive'?

[–] TerminalMadness 20 years ago

I might, what do you think?

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[–] lordjin 20 years ago

It's not so much the movie itself as it is the principle of the matter. You get a greater appreciation for movies, even those some consider "mediocre", when you try writing one yourself. If this movie is mediocre, I shudder to think of the garbage that would flow from your pen. Try it. I bet you suck big ones too.

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[–] archieleach 19 years ago

Eeeg! Too much coffee there lordjin.

[–] Xapora 19 years ago

I understand what you're trying to say and think lordjin is being a bit harsh. Yes, we all like to see happy endings in movies and when that doesn't happen, it can sometimes be disappointing. But I think this movie did have a happy ending, of sorts.

Michelle became a (slightly) nicer person. Elizabeth came to realise she didn't need a man or her agent or anyone else to tell her she's a good person and Annie seemed to reach a turning point after her brief but poignant chat with Michelle at McDonalds. Her arranging the pillows in preparation for Jane's return from hospital was a tender and sweet moment.

The rich friend was only thrown in...

The rich friend was the one having an affair with Michelle's husband so I think her role was slightly more significant than just being "thrown in".

Movies are all about suspending disbelief. And coincidences do happen. How many times have you had an experience or encounter and thought, "Gee! What a small world!" Most writers are told, "Write what you know". Who knows? Maybe some of the events in the movie are based on experiences the writer had at some point in their life ... ?

Just trying to be helpful and am certainly not giving you a roasting a la lordjin. Geez - take a pill!

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[–] julia925 18 years ago

The stories were not what you would really call "sub-plots", because they were all equal parts of the story. My definition of a sub-plot is a less important story going on in during the main one. It seems to me that all of the plots in this film were of equal importance.

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[–] DreTam2000 8 years ago

This movie didn't have subplots. This movie had character arcs, like Aliens or Boogie Nights, two of the cleverest movies of all time to pull this off among half-a-dozen or so different characters in their respective films (despite, of course, the two movies being nothing alike in scope or in genre).

Learn more about what this is, observe, study it, and then you can come back here and speak intelligently about the narrative in this movie. Otherwise, you are badly off the mark here, and therefore can be interpreted or received as a fool by whoever enters this thread.

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