Kerry Fox is naive - Intimacy (2001) Discussion

[–] tigerbos 15 years ago

...so if she had accepted the use of a prosthetic then she would have been known as the actress who sucked a fake penis instead..? what difference does it make? She was the one who did the scene. The director didn't MAKE HER do anything. If you think that's the only thing this actress is/will be known for is sucking a penis in one of her films, then you have totally missed the point of the scene, the movie, this actress as well as her other body of work before and after this film, so you are the naive one not Kerry Fox.

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[–] Xeelo 15 years ago

"so if she had accepted the use of a prosthetic then she would have been known as the actress who sucked a fake penis instead..? what difference does it make?"

Of course there is difference, because then it would have been just another, if explicit, simulated sex scene and that's it, that is the way it could and should have been done.
There is no point or need, this movie or any other movie, other than hardcore, to have un-simulated sex scenes, publicity and sensationalism are the only reasons.

And about her body of work after this film?
Looks like mostly minor/supporting parts in more or less unknown movies or guest roles in TV.
Performing unsimulated sex act in Intimacy is easily more memorable than everything she has done since (or before), so if she is known it's probably because of that scene.

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[–] tigerbos 15 years ago

...so do you remember any of the films she made before this film? Since most her films are merely forgotten according to you, it's like she won't be remembered for anything.
She did An Angel at My Table which I feel is more newsworthy than a film where there was a very brief fallatio scene...and by the way, why do you care? What's it to you whether an actress really blows somebody on film or not? How does it affect you? It simply does not affect anyone except for the person who chose to do it.

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[–] milesaugust 12 years ago

Disagree completely. Why not have real love scenes? I love the new wave of cinema since Catherine Breillat's Romance that use unsimulated sex scenes with actors, not porn stars. If you don't want to show any sex at all, fine, but it's gonna be in a movie why not let it be real. Should actors not really make out with tongues in a passionate kissing scene in a rated R film? Why stop there? If they are going to be naked, gyrating and moaning, go for it. Let it be real. It's much more emotional and in the moment. Why fake it? So what if some potential viewers may use it as spank material, that's not the filmmakers business. Some guys will use a JC Penny ad if that's all that's around. I have so much more respect for an actor/actress who is willing to bare all for a performance.

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[–] Xeelo 12 years ago

Why not? Because actors job is to act, period.
You are just a really pathetic netwanker with ridiculous reasoning.

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[–] cyclgrrl 7 years ago

I totally agree with you. I liked it better than porn, because in porn they fake it alot (like simulated sex scenes - just a different kind of 'faking'). Here the sex was real and the pleasure was (I hope) real. And a part of the story. All good. I'd like to see real sex in more movies. Also more real foreplay - even in this movie it cut to the chase too quickly. Yes, it was part of the plot, but still - even in anonymous sex, there can still be foreplay.

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[–] Mandy_Whitsands 13 years ago

...so if she had accepted the use of a prosthetic then she would have been known as the actress who sucked a fake penis instead..? what difference does it make?

ingenious replique

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[–] tigerbos 13 years ago

I already made that comment.

I think she's the saddest girl ever to hold a martini.

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[–] janders64 14 years ago

Maybe instead of being naive, she just really likes to suck c*ck.

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[–] bunnywithanaxe 13 years ago

Wow, I can't believe this thread was started in 2009. I remembered reading it, but hadn't checked, and figured it was started in '01, or '02, and the original poster hadn't been able to research the fact that Kerry Fox has been working steadily every year since her performance in Intimacy. Check out her page if you don't believe me.

On quite good films for the most part, too. Yeah, she has one animated film voiceover, but hell even Spacey and Clooney have a few of those.

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[–] kirkwuk 13 years ago

So because she worked on films since Intimacy that means she is successful? Successful an an actress in very minor roles, maybe. She hasn't been considered for anything anywhere near the heights of Shallow Grave.

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[–] murad23 13 years ago

Actually she was in mediocre films before an some above average ones after, and her career track is better than 99% of actresses, which a simple check of IMDB will telly generally go into a tailspin with rare exception after age 26 to 27.

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[–] Xeelo 12 years ago

Kerry Fox has had just small parts in mostly small productions and increasingly supporting parts in Tv serieses. Most of her roles has got just few ratings from imdb users.
Even she has said it damaged her career: "she endured "the worst, worst two years" after Intimacy because it "made people even more frightened of working with me than they had been before"."

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[–] Testpattern 10 years ago

by janders64 » Sun Jan 10 2010 23:26:56
IMDb member since June 2003

Maybe instead of being naive, she just really likes to suck...

A possibility that if true, all I can add is she would hardly be the FIRST!

"If people like you don't learn from what happened to people like me..."-Professor Rohl

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[–] f2039 13 years ago

even if filmmakers "add" such hardcore scenes with the hope of getting publicity, it obviously backfires because of these people who are not yet very open-minded about natural, uncut sexual intercourse... of course they have no problem with seeing murder, war, theft...

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[–] FootOfDavros (6719) 10 months ago

... these people who are not yet very open-minded about natural, uncut sexual intercourse... of course they have no problem with seeing murder...

LOL. I suspect we'd be looking at a very niche demographic of people comfortable watching snuff movies, yet baulking at the idea of watching real sex in a film!

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[–] hooper-xxx 13 years ago

Even if what you said was true, so what? Despite what your puritanical sensibilities have led you to believe, it's not that big of a deal.

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[–] angloo 12 years ago

For those 19th century-minded puritans who are crucifying Kerry Fox (now happily married to her then-lover with two children to boot), I suggest you remind yourselves that Chloe Sevigny performed a full-on BJ scene in The Brown Bunny (2003) and has hardly disappeared into obscurity; indeed, she was the puritanical Nicolette Grant in a series you may have heard of called Big Love.

Get your head out of your nether regions and accept, or at least tolerate, depictions of love, sex and nudity (that are almost all positive) and save your disgust for those depictions of graphic violence, murder, decapitation and gore (which are almost always negative) and get your priorities straight.

The really disturbing aspect of this is that too many of you also vote.

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[–] bunnywithanaxe 12 years ago

Thank you, Chloe Sevigny, excellent point.

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[–] Xeelo 12 years ago

Angloo and bunnywithanaxe are not movie fans they are movie sex/nudity scene fans who watch movies mainly for these scenes and cannot stand if some critisizes those scenes.
Get your hands out of your nether regions.
There is lot of depictions of love, sex and nudity in film and they are done simulated, Intimacy's fellation scene could essily have been simulated also only reason it was not was that Patrice Chereau is a publicity seeking sensationalist attentionwh*re.

Actors who act to have sex in sex scenes are just doing their job.
Kerry Fox (like Chloe Sevigny) performed fellation for money and everybody knows what that means.

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[–] bunnywithanaxe 12 years ago

Wow. That may be the most interesting way I have ever been described. Since you seem content to base your opinions on this one board (and on nothing else either one of us have written on IMDB), I will simply bask in having this exciting new reputation which no-one who knows me or has actually read thing I 've written would have. I feel so spicey.

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[–] Xeelo 12 years ago

Cut the crap.

Kerry Fox performed sex act for money, everybody who defends it miserable, pretentious and phony arthouse perv (with their usual excuses: directors artistic vision, for realism's sake... etc. garbage)

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[–] cmoore1886 12 years ago

Xeelo you have very deep rooted issues that no message board is going to solve so get out of you parents basement and get a life.

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[–] hgt190 11 years ago

You are very very very desperate to see movie sex scenes, namely a real ones.

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[–] tigerbos 11 years ago

I love it that most people who over-use the word pretentious think they have the market cornered on intellect when they really need to keep their opinions to themselves as their words are merely a reflection of their rampant stupidity. The main question here is why do you care if Kerry Fox performed a sex act? For God's sake, sit down and shut up. You are making a fool out of yourself.

I think she's the saddest girl ever to hold a martini.

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[–] tigerbos 11 years ago

You call me a perv and a twat yet you are the one who uses this sort of language? Lol...classic...and I'm supposed to be the one who watches porno? You really haven't been laid in awhile have you?

I think she's the saddest girl ever to hold a martini.

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[–] bunnywithanaxe 12 years ago

The same can be said about Mark Rylance, in that case. Why is there not page after page of disgust and outrage about HIM being an attention whore?

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[–] Helena727 9 years ago

THANK you. The puritans sure like their double standards!

"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people."

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[–] twominds79 12 years ago

For the record Chloe Sevginy gave oral sex in 'The Brown Bunny' and it hasn't stiffled her career.

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[–] Barbecue 11 years ago

"For the record Chloe Sevginy gave oral sex in 'The Brown Bunny' and it hasn't stiffled her career."

Actually, yes it did.

After Brown Bunny, she was dropped by her agency, and mostly did smaller supporting roles for the next few years. I'm not saying her career was destroyed, but to claim that there were no negative repercussions is simply incorrect.

Chloe herself stated in an interview that looking back, she was being self-destructive in doing the scene, and that she would not do it again.

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[–] nimmy1 12 years ago

Got to love these people making excuses for hardcore sex. You're just wanting an eyefull with out having to go and buy a porn film.

Only those with no valid argument pick holes in people's spelling and grammar.

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[–] Howlin Wolf 11 years ago

We're on the internet… We can get an eyeful of things much more explicit than were shown in "intimacy", without having to buy a porn film, anyway.

"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?!"

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[–] SecretS_ChaoS 12 years ago

I'm not against this movie, by any means. However, this is a porno. Maybe the actors had done non-porno acting and have continue to do non-porno projects, but this was a porno. I've seen my fare share of porn films and some with very good plots and good acting. Some say that simply because this film had a real plot and actors that were not in the porn business, could call this a non-porno film. But to me this is pure porno. Specially the way the sex scenes were directed, they're straight out of a regular porno film.

If the director had been more tasteful with the scenes, more intimate, as the film suggests, perhaps this film could had been taken a little more serious than a regular porno.

With using real actors, I think the director should had taken the opportunity to create very meaningful sex scenes between the characters.

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[–] Howlin Wolf 11 years ago

Which ones? I have never seen a hard-core porn film with either a good plot or good acting… The main concern of a porn film is always the sex. This film at least TRIED to encompass other things. Whether or not it did so effectively is a separate issue.

"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?!"

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