Forgive my ignorance, but I remember I used to watch a toon with a blue beagle with a bow tye that later I found out he was gay. Actually he seemed really too british for a toon. I don´t remember him with the bear, I think he had his own show, but I can´t recall his name. You remember this character? And is that true?
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Fernando Sabino
The character you are thinking of is Huckleberry Hound. He had his own show that Yogi spun off from.
Have to pick you up on a couple of things, though. 1. Huck Hound is not gay, to my knowledge. 2. Nor is he British. He was from the 'Deep South' in America 3. Why should being British mean you're gay? 4. How can you be 'too British' for a toon?
Toon characters are mostly crazy, noisy and childish. That doesn´t correspond to the british guy stereotype: formal, quiet and with good manners. I´m talking about a stereotype, something hard to find in real life, just used it as a reference. I´m not saying either that all british are like that, on the contrary, I´ve been there, so I can tell they´re just like everyone else. And I didn´t say that being british means you´re gay, just that both british and gay stereotypes have some similarities in the way they behave.
Nevertheless, Huckleberry Hound is gay indeed. That´s from a Simpsons episode:
Narrator: Next week, on "Behind the Laughter": Huckleberry Hound.
Huckleberry Hound: I was so gay ... but I couldn't tell anyone.
Along with that, lots of others evidences can be found on the web. Naturally, none can prove my point, but at least they confirm that I´m not the only one who thinks he´s gay. Anyway, what´s wrong with that?
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The Simpsons probably through that in because they thought it was funny. I doubt Hanna-Barbera intended this. Anyway I swear he has a wife in some episodes.
shareI wouldn't say that the British stereotype and the gay stereotype are similar either. The stereotypical homosexual is very camp and effeminate. I'm not saying that's right, it's just a stereotype.
And just because The Simpsons says something how does that make it true? Fact is that gay characters simply didn't exist in media until films like the 'Carry On...' series.
I think gay characters exist long before that, since ancient Greece. But in the last centuries society was too uptight to accept an openly gay character, so they were disguised or kept in the cupboard. You can find subtle homossexuality references from Shakespeare to Batman & Robin.
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Quite possibly if you want to look for it. But I think Huck Hound is a bad example. He's not really a sexual character.
shareI have to agree with you on that. In fact he doesn´t seem to have a gender.
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Well he has a male voice and male design so obviously he is male.
shareOk, but he seems to be that kind of male that never got laid in his whole life.
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I doubt he's that bothered. He's too laid-back. How this makes you gay I don't know.
shareI agree. This discussion is pointless. I´m amazed how far we got. Since I don´t speak english as a native tongue, I think you called me gay, is that it?. Should I feel offended and engineer a clever answer implying you´re gay and not me, like two kindergarden kids? Should I assume my gayness (is there such word?) even though I like girls, especially those who look like hooters waitresses? No, I´m not being sincere, actually I don´t have a special tipe of girl, I like some with long hair, others with short hair, big asses are welcome. Why am I saying that? I´m waiting for the match England X Paraguai Ok, I´ll pretend I´m a gay in the cupboard. Are you and the beagle happy now? I´m sorry, I should be in a mental institution on haldol. Sorry again, I´m a regular brazilian guy practising my typing. Wait! The brits just scored! No hard feelings, I like you amorrice 80
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No, I was not calling you gay brunolermann. I was using the word 'you' in a different context. It's just the way we speak in my area. I confess it could be misconstrued when it is put into type, because you can't actually hear what's being said. Perhaps I should have written "How this makes 'one' gay is beyond me". I hope this clarifies.
shareWhat area do you live? And what does your nick mean?
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Aberdeen, Scotland. My nick is a contraction of my name and birth year.
shareScotland? Pretty cool. I don´t have much identification with my country (Brasil), I don´t like samba, nor soccer. The good things from here are 3: the food, the beaches and the girls. But if could choose, I´d rather being born in Britain. Went to London last year and found it perfect...
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I wouldn't live in London, too expensive and no-one talks to you!
shareYou´re probably right, all big cities are like that. But, since it´s a small country (for Brasil standards, where 500 km is cindidered close), I could live in a tiny village and visit London or take the boat and visit Dublin sometimes.
Have you read "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy? (the movie doesn´t count}. I think only a british guy could write a book loke that
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I've not read it, no but I saw the TV show which surprised me as it was rather funny!
shareHow old are you? Read it, it´s a must, like Catcher in the Rye and Slaughterhouse 5. Don´t watch too much tv. Read books. That´s a commonplace advice, but if you acquire reading habits, you´ll be ahead of people your age in many other ways you suppose. A reader gets the best girls nowadays
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Now that made me laugh! I never get any girls and I'm a 26-year-old chap who reads and reads all the time. I don't watch much TV apart from Coronation Street (a British soap) and DVDs of old Hanna-Barbera cartoons! (hence this board)
shareBecause of the board I thought you were a teen, even a kid. Still I´m 5 years older than you but, don´t do much apart from watching cable and websurfing, after I broke up with my wife and got fired.
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You have to be an adult to truly appreciate the genius of Yogi Bear et al. Plus being in Britain I haven't seen many of these episodes as they were mage before I was around.
Sorry to hear about your troubles, guess I should count my blessings.
I look at the good side of troubles. I can do whatever I want at any time. It´s been quite amusing, I got some money inherited from my dad, I can´t spend much, but I can afford cable tv and a relatively new car (despite it´s a Ford Ka).
What authors you like? Any recommendation? I found strange when you said being a reader doesn´t help with girls. Maybe you´re aiming the wrong type. Choose those who seem to be careless about their appearance and usually wear glasses. This kind of girl craves for a well educated, accultured guy, because there aren´t many.
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I like Kas. I'd like to have one if I ever sell my Mini, though I'd love a vintage 1920s sytle motor!.
As for girls, the whole thing's a waste of time if you ask me. I'll stick to my cartoons and books. I read a lot of crime novels. Lee Child, Colin Dexter and R.D. Wingfield are rather good.
I don´t know these guys, though I like crime novels, but I stick to Agatha Christie, Conan Doyle and Chandler. I prefer horror writers, HP Lovecraft is my favorite, Poe (of course), Stephen King is usually mediocre, but had 2 or 3 good books. Anyway, I mentioned Kurt Vonnegut, you probably know him. "Slaughterhouse 5" is a must read, trust me.
I love Mini Coopers, in Brasil the VW beetle (old version) corresponds to it. My Ka never gave me problems, though it´s a bit too slow, but the engine is 1.0, what can I expect
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Huck wasnt gay but Snagglepuss, Wally Gator, and Hair Bear...its a bit obvious what their orientation was.
"A commitment to cinema means to lead a technically deviant lifestyle."
Wally Gator fancied 'keeeen Suth'n gator belles' so no, he wasn't gay, just camp. And Snagglepuss showed an interest in Lila the lioness until she turned out to be very annoying. HairBear? Unlikely. He was just meant to be very cool. In a dated 70s kind of way.
shareAnd he was not a beagle.
Amanda Bynes is hot, Lindsay Lohan is not
He had multiple girlfriends over the course of the cartoon. Plus near the very end he had a child though no mother was announced. I do not think he was gay and he was from Alabama.