A big steaming pile of bull****


...but I love watching these schlock-umentaries. Just don't expect to learn anything new (Oswald did it folks...).

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Ok Mr. Sheep. We get it. Now go back to your pasture.




I came, I saw, I laughed, I left.

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Yes, I also lived through the assassination period. I've spent a lot of time studying the assassination, and the most likely scenario by far is that Oswald acted alone. His own brother, Robert Oswald, is sure he acted alone, having spoken with him in the Dallas jail shortly before he was killed by Jack Ruby. No matter how folks try to craft an alternative hypothesis, the lone gunman theory is still the best by far.

The human mind tends to look for conspiracies for something like this. It just seems too unfair that a mediocre guy like Oswald could pull this off, so people look for some grander explanation. But there likely is none. I strongly recommend the excellent analysis done in "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner.

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How can Oswald from up in the school depository have acted alone when it's so obvious on the Zapruder film that JFK's head was hit from the left side in the front and jerked backwards? The explanation that there was a third assassin hidden in the sewer hole next to the curb of the side walk (beneath Grassy Knoll) makes more sense to me.
Watch part 9, it's all explained there.

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You really need to update your knowledge. Several forensic teams have reconstructed the assassination using dummies and ballistic gel, etc. A shot from the rear will blow out the front of the skull (thus the exit wound is usually many times larger than the entrance wound). The resulting spray of blood, skull pieces and brain matter will push the head back and to the left (Newton's third law of motion). Because the wounds in his back and the rear of his head are both small, they are entrance wounds. If he had been shot from the front, there would have been huge exit wounds in back. There were none.

Forensic experts have also tested the "sewer shooter" theory and have disproven it. It would be impossible to shoot effectively from the sewer, given where the motorcade was. The angle would be wrong.

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Fact is that the doctors at Parkland Hospital in Dallas noticed a huge exit wound on the backside of his head (the one that blew off parts of his brain which was covering Jackie's dress and the back of the car).
But the CIA or whoever put the docs under pressure to not mention the big exit wound. The autopsy photos of JFK's backside of his head didn't show the big part of the skull that was actually missing. Photo experts later stated that the autopsy photo(s)have been tampered with.
You must have read about that or heard about it in the many JFK documentaries. It's common knowledge. I didn't make that up.

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Your viewpoint is biased by conspiracy theorists who distort the facts. If you do a bit of Googling, I think you'll find that all these so-called "loose threads" aren't really there. The problem is that all the people spouting inaccurate and/or outdated information far outnumber the credible, scientific ones. So the science gets drowned out.

The conspiracy theorists usually purposely take inaccurate info and then fail to consider the rebuttal evidence (that is far stronger and more accurate/complete). And that CIA nonsense is just one example. Think about it: if what these nuts say is true, then there would have to be hundreds, perhaps thousands of folks involved in this wide-ranging conspiracy. But it would be impossible to have such a huge conspiracy surrounding such a high-profile crime without the conspiracy having cracks in it eventually. Someone--probably many someones--would eventually talk. It would leak out.

You're dealing with a biased TV series (yes, I saw all the episodes) from 1988. You should update your info with some excellent documentary evidence and forensic reenactments that were issued around the 50th anniversary of the assassination. They were able to shoot down every single major conspiracy theory point.

They even interviewed doctors who attended Kennedy in the hospital, and they all agree that the two wounds in the rear of his body were entrance wounds, and the wound in the right front skull was an exit wound. Also, the blood and brain matter that sprayed out from that exit wound all went forward into the front seat, the dashboard, the windshield and the hood of the car. The only material that went backward was a couple of small pieces of skull from the entrance wound in the rear of the skull that fell off when the bullet cracked the skull. (These are what Mrs. Kennedy was trying to retrieve when she left her seat.)

I'm not going to waste any more time on this, but you really should update your knowledge. And make sure you don't just look at the old evidence that has already been debunked by many expert sources.

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"Think about it: if what these nuts say is true, then there would have to be hundreds, perhaps thousands of folks involved in this wide-ranging conspiracy. But it would be impossible to have such a huge conspiracy surrounding such a high-profile crime without the conspiracy having cracks in it eventually. Someone--probably many someones--would eventually talk. It would leak out. "


I guess you never heard of the Manhattan Project, which involved over 130,000 people. NOBODY blabbed!! Silence is easily coercible with death threats, threatening family members, and invocations of "national security."

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I guess you never heard of the Manhattan Project, which involved over 130,000 people. NOBODY blabbed!! Silence is easily coercible with death threats, threatening family members, and invocations of "national security."

I guess you never bothered to find out that the Manhattan Project had more than 1,500 leaks, including spies who passed info to the Soviets:

http://io9.gizmodo.com/secrets-of-the-manhattan-project-were-leaked-a-staggeri-1626524763

That's exactly what I mean by biased, dishonest conspiracy theorists.

The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. -- A. Einstein

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I guess you never bothered to find out that the Manhattan Project had more than 1,500 leaks, including spies who passed info to the Soviets:

So did the Kennedy assassination.

Despite your eternal claims that the conspiracy has been "debunked".

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LBJ's mistress on JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA


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People like you really need to get a life.

The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine.–J.B. Haldane

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But you're here, too.

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I'm here only very infrequently, whenever I get an auto-notification that someone replied to my post. Otherwise I'm never here. And sometimes I actually reply, but most times I don't.

Anyway, what I meant was that instead of trying to spread ridiculous conspiracy theories that have been debunked long ago, why not spend your time doing something societally useful?

The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine.–J.B. Haldane

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Why don't you go do something useful? Instead of your comin here trying to claim the conspiracy is a "ridiculous theory" that's been "debunked long ago" when it hasn't (as anyone who knows the material is aware).

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LBJ's mistress on JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA


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And now you are officially on my ignore list. Bye.

The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine.–J.B. Haldane

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pt100 is correct. Maybe now you can focus your attention on spreading the latest conspiracy theory:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/16/politics/antonin-scalia-autopsy-death-conspiracy-theories/index.html

A person's a person, no matter how small. -- Dr. Seuss

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Your viewpoint is biased by LoneNutters who distort the facts. The problem is that all the people spouting inaccurate and/or outdated information in the mainstream media far outnumber the credible, scientific ones which prove conspiracy. So the science gets drowned out.


The LoneNutters usually purposely take inaccurate info and then fail to consider the rebuttal evidence (that is far stronger and more accurate/complete). And that CIA disinfo is just one example. Think about it: if what these LoneNutters say was true, then there would never be hundreds, perhaps thousands of folks involved in this or any wide-ranging conspiracy. So it would be impossible to have such a huge conspiracy surrounding such a high-profile crime without the conspiracy having cracks in it eventually. They claim someone -- probably many someones -- would eventually talk. It would leak out.

Hence, no conspiracy could ever exist in the history of world politics.

They've even interviewed the doctors and medical personnel who attended Kennedy in the ER at Parkland, and they all agreed that the wound in the rear of his head was a huge, avulsed exit wound (indicating a shot from the front) and that they did not recognize the tiny wound on the official autopsy photos.

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LBJ's mistress on JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA


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Kennedy did not fall backwards. He fell to his LEFT, because his head was struck on the RIGHT side. Parkland nurse Doris Nelson shows the head wound location in this Time magazine photo: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/nelson.jpg

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Robert Groden (The Killing of a President) had access to the autopsy report and wrote that the bullet entered the president from the front and left through the back of his head (that's why such a big part of his skull fell of and partly over Jackie). And yes, he fell towards Jackie, I don't disagree with that.
But LHO could not have hit JFK from the front due to his position in the TSBD.
When the shooting started, JFK was already nearing the underpass towards Stemmons Freeway, so the back of his head was turned towards the TSBD. However, the bullet entered from the front. So the shot was either coming from Grassy Knoll, the sewer drainage or maybe from the railroad bridge over the underpass.

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Groden's theory has been debunked here ( http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/experts.htm ). He rotated the photo of Kennedy's head wound 90 degrees and made the front view of his head look like the back view! So everything was opposite of what he said. Hence, the shot came from the back.



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And then the bullet left JFK's body and went into governor John Connally's?
Come on! That's ridiculous.

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By not addressing my point about Groden's claim, are you conceding his claim is false?

Regarding the "magic" bullet, modern science has pretty much shown that the lone-gunman, single-bullet scenario is very plausible. It has shown that the bullet did not zigzag in order to penetrate both Kennedy and Connally, was fired much earlier than previously believed, and was not really pristine as previously believed. Science has shown that the bullet WOULD be magic if it didn't hit both Kennedy and Connally.

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Well, if you are naive enough to believe in the magic bullet theory...to each his own :).

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Looks like you are the naive one here if you still hold on to these wild theories long after they have been debunked. I'm just as jaded and cynical as the next fellow given the atrocious state of our government past and present, but I still respect SCIENCE. Science is one objective thing in our culture that we can all count on for the truth. Numerous tests have proven that the so-called magic bullet could go through both people given their body positions. The backyard photo of Oswald has been proven not a fake due to grain structure testing on the photo. Tests like these lend tremendous weight to the notion that Oswald acted alone. It's no coincidence that this country ranks so poorly in math and science, making some people easy preys for the conspiracy-mongers, who are similarly poor their understanding of science themselves.

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So numerous tests have proven that the so-called magic bullet could go through both people given their body positions….and come away nearly intact with more fragments left in Gov. Connally than is missing from the bullet (exhibit 399)! Really?

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Slimy Gerald Posner's "Case Closed" has been rightly referred to as "the most dishonest book ever written." Same for Bugliosi. You really need to update your knowledge.

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LBJ's mistress on JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA


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Oswald definitely without a doubt did not kill President Kennedy, the CIA did. Case has been closed.

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"Just don't expect to learn anything new"


In the mid-'70s, a CIA memo was leaked in which publishers and reviewers were instructed to use certain phrases to dismiss pro-conspiracy books, including references to the authors' supposedly well-known agenda, pointing out that there is a "cottage industry" in publishing conspiracy books (even though Lone Nut books are far easier to get printed, and you always have a good review waiting for you at the NYT) and that "there's nothing new here."

Phrases still used today.

So I guess the OP really is a sheepy shill after all.



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The most profound of sin is tragedy unremembered.

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You must be quite naive if you still believe that Oswald did it all by himself from the 6th floor. He couldn't have hit JFK from the front into his throat, but somebody from the sewer drainage before the underpass or maybe from behind Grassy Knoll might have hit him. But from the 6th floor at the school book depository it was simple not be able and has been proven by several film makers ever since.

Moreover many people on Dealey Plaza who were there on that day said that they heard 3 or 4 shots and that some of the shots came from the Grassy Knoll or before (sewer drainage as explained in part 8 of TMWKK).

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