How was Hosenfeld's name discovered if Szpilman + friend didn't know it? - The Pianist (2003) Discussion

[–] AsaNisiMasa_63 12 years ago

They later find out years afterward (1950?). Szpilman even valiantly tries to get Hosenfield free, but he ends up getting executed by the soviets.

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[–] angelofvic 12 years ago

How do they find out?
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[–] AsaNisiMasa_63 12 years ago

Here http://bit.ly/IaMsv8

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[–] xxAmsxx 11 years ago

No, that's incorrect. Hosenfeld was not executed. He was in a soviet prison, but he suffered a series of strokes and died, either from cardiac arrest or his last stroke. Not executed!

EVERYTHING WAS BEAUTIFUL AND NOTHING HURT.

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[–] my_friend_dont_be_a_jerk2 11 years ago

Semantics. Smart money is he died whilst being tortured. We will never know for certain, but that's what makes the most sense.

What's all them books?.

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[–] angelofvic 12 years ago

Again, can anyone answer the question?
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[–] AsaNisiMasa_63 12 years ago

stop being lazy and either look it up on google, or read szpilman's memoir.

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[–] angelofvic 12 years ago

OK, the above poster is now on ignore.

Can anyone answer the question: How was Hosenfeld's name discovered if neither Szpilman nor his friend knew it?

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[–] Lyndhen 12 years ago

http://books.google.pl/books?id=rOwzC997zcQC&pg=PA119&dq=Wilm+ Hosenfeld&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cUGdT6m-K6TD0QXAyMTvDg&ved=0CE YQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=postcard&f=false

middle of page 120. Says that Hosenfeld's wife had recieved a postcard from him in 46 detailing the names of people he had helped. Szpilman learnt Hosenfeld's name from this.

if the link doesn't work the book is "Physicists on Wall Street and Other Essays on Science and Society"

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[–] angelofvic 12 years ago

Ah, thanks very much, that's very interesting!
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[–] leezechka 12 years ago

Seriously, why are you so lazy that you cannot bother to google and read the links? You even were sent the google search and instead of reading it you ignore the person? That is the highest degree of lazy I have ever seen ever. How many days did you spend posting on here rather than spend ONE MINUTE googling?

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[–] angelofvic 12 years ago

Ah, another person to put on ignore. <click>
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[–] Lyndhen 12 years ago

Too right. It was an interesting question and not easy to find the answer to.

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[–] angelofvic 12 years ago

No joke. I appreciate your taking the time to research that extensively and find that comprehensive answer.
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[–] my_friend_dont_be_a_jerk2 11 years ago

Hosenfeld's name was known for other acts of kindness and sympathy towards countless Polish Jews towards the tail end of the Nazi occupation. His story is actually quite uplifting (well, besides him being tortured to death by the Russians who ignored dozens of claims from Polish officials whom attempted to disprove his accusation as war criminal). Historians piece together much information from Hosenfeld and his battalion mates and it appears many of them were disillusioned Nazis who by the end were completely embarrassed by their uniforms. Obviously the whole truth will never be known, but there's plenty of stories like Hosenfeld's. I would be interested to see a film about him.

What's all them books?.

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[–] angelofvic 11 years ago

Yes, it would make a very good film.
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[–] elpida18 11 years ago

My only question is why didn't Hosenfeld give his name to Szpilman's friend when he spoke to him? Unless he did and the friend forgot it. I'm not sure if time was a factor in the fact that they couldn't free him. How sad.

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[–] neztra 11 years ago

It looked like he was trying to tell him his name but the Russian soldier kept yelling over him and so the communication was never made.

Bam said the lady.

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[–] PotassiumMan 10 years ago

It's a tragic story because a deed of genuine humanity was never repaid and was in fact punished with barbarism. The vast majority of German troops and Gestapo officers who participated in the atrocities and murders deserved whatever punishment came their way after the war. But this rare act of kindness went by the wayside.

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[–] helena-charis 10 years ago

He was repaid! It didn't go by the wayside! He was honoured by Yad Vashem as one of The Righteous Among The Nations after Szpilman and his son repeatedly argued that he should be awarded some credit for saving not only Szpilman, but also others - see here: http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/righteous/stories/hosenfeld.asp

He also has other awards, see here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilm_Hosenfeld

A book has been published as well, which I think details his opinions on the Nazi regime, in his letters and diary. It's only available in German, though.: http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/3421057761/ref=aw_d_dsc_books

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[–] dpeszkowska 10 years ago

not only this, but Szpilman, as a well-known and wealthy musician, was helping Hosenfeld's wife and children.

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[–] joe-armenta 7 years ago

Doi.

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