To all idiots


Anyone who argues how the film is unrealistic is in a retarded fashion missing the point.

It is not about how the free market can provide care for people. The free market is just another governance system like the feaudal system was or comunism was.

The point is that in this enlightened and rich beyond anything we have ever seen age we should be doing more for our fellow human beings. Our current translation of extreme free market is to persue the competition we once led with sticks and stones to the stock markets.

This is wrong.

We know better now.

Let me put it in a language you may understand. Jesus said we should love our fellow human beings didn't he? He didn't say we should suffer their misery in order for us to have a 100 inch telly? Mother Theresa said that charity starts at home. Why is the USA giving away billions in foreign aid if it's own citizens are suffering? Because it is a tool of foreign policy it's why.

And don't let yourself be deceived that you would not have what you already have if the system was more fair - it is just that perhaps the top 1 percent would earn slightly less, and have less control of your lives.

Either way, powerful film, if it wasn't for the sugary awful ending.

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Nice post but I can do without the religion BS.

"Be civil to all; sociable to many; familiar with few; friend to one; enemy to none."

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I find it ironic how your sig is completely contrary to your post. How about you change your sig or be a bit more civil yourself, eh?

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I may be mistaken, but I believe the OP's point of the religious reference on Jesus is the fact that America's economic system for healthcare (Corporate Capitalism) is contradictory to the teachings of Christ. If anything, socialism is just as relevant to Christ's teachings as Capitalism's so-called free market. It is greedy, evil, and obviously wrong.

The Jesus example is proving a point that the United States doesn't know what they are talking about. If America is all religious and think their values are relevant to their Christian religion, think again. Our healthcare system is evidence enough that we are not even close. There is nothing Christian about our healthcare system. Citizens supporting it due to their religious convictions are kidding themselves. Our Fundamentalist Christian believes are far from the teachings of Christ.

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It is propaganda and bull at all levels. A decent sniper would have taken his butt out at several points. And name me one poor little child who has died in the American System because the parents did not have enough money to handle a transplant. You can't, because if it was the case, it would be all over the news and constantly referenced. When they talk about Health Care horror stories, they cite the same ten people. I can with a cursory search in Google show you hundreds who have died or gone without treatment in England and Canada. And Michael Moor cited how wonderful the Cuban Health Care System was. Do you know what they do with HIV patients in Cuba- quarantine camps. They are NOT allowed to mingle in the general population until they die. It seems their wonderful health care system does give them the drugs. Die they do, still. John Q is just pure propaganda and clumsy at that. I mean, their discussions about HMO's - it was like watching an episode of ER- please - it was just a massive CLICHE.

Why don't they show how government controlled health care has worked. Like Indian Reservations. Look them up, the reservation clinics are butcher shops. Look at the VA. It has been a disaster since after World War 2. There was a recent article in Bloomberg saying that Vets were happy with it. They cited one person and the numbers showed that the VA spends double the money to keep one of their hospitals open. That is realism and Michael Moore and the liberals ignore those facts.

You are too young to have seen or remember what happened to our health care system. The problem is the Insurance companies, but this started in the 70's with government meddling in the system. Every time government has meddled with it, it has expanded costs and degraded care. The American health care system was at its best in the 70's, before the meddling when the Liberal Democrats began their push to socialized medicine. We now have seen the culmination of that today. All government meddling has been disastrous: government meddling in the health care system and the banking system. For example, forcing banks to loan to minorities regardless of their ability to pay back was the ONLY contributing factor to the crash in 2008. These were the toxic loans. This is a little fact that has been hidden by the news media and the Democrats. And of course we see how the government interference with the stimulus has really improved the economy. If it wasn't so tragic, I would laugh. Government meddling with Health Care in the 90's was supposed to lower costs with HFCFA and HIPAA, reality, the costs doubled because insurance companies had to spend billions to set up new computer systems to keep up with the government mandated collection of information and report to the government.

Free Market, Socialism, Communism are all governance - so what? Free Market has always done better than the rest. And a cursory comparison of the free market to the socialized system shows that it will be an utter disaster for this country. Let's face it, the greatest medical advances and discoveries have happened in the US, not England, Canada, or the USSR. And don't give me Mother Theresa - if the RCC gave up most of their money (like the solid gold alters in their cathedrals in South, Central, and Meso America) and their 30% interest in the Miller Brewing Company(they don't pay taxes on it), then they would not have to worry about taking care of the poor. Ask your priest: why doesn't the Catholic Church take its vast wealth and do more for the poor? Your invocation of Jesus is misguided, I must remind you Jesus had to borrow his neighbors donkey. Every reference HE made to giving was in the context of voluntary (freewill), in short, when I want to give, I will give, I do not need a priest, minister, or government bureaucrat to strong arm me.

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My political science professor said that "America has no friends, only interests" when it comes to foreign policy and it is true the way we pick & choose who we send help to...We go to "rescue" oil, whoops Kuwait, but during the Rwandan genocide America avoids anything to do with it...We don't send foregin aid to help others, we send it to help ourselves

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Hmmm, seems like sugary is exactly what you wouldn't call awful, and that the ending is exactly how you'd want things.

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mmm, seems to me you are missing a point twice !

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Dude, you can't use Jesus's quotes. This is America, the people who pretend to be Christians only do it to justify their unethical lives without just admitting they are unethical. Bible quotes only count when they can be used to reinforce their hatred.

I agree that it is disgusting that we have turned healthcare into a for profit business. Yes it leads to some advances, though those are only useful for the wealthy as the rest of us would be denied when we reached our year or lifetime maximums on the fraud that is health insurance.

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True, true!

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So you have no problem to call people idiots, but you quote a man, who lived 2000 years ago, like you know him personally? Are you sheep or endlessly stupid to say, that Jesus said something and you don't even know he really lived. Do you also believe he changed water to wine? Then he was also pretty boozer, right? And such a person, who believes someone else, who writes, that someone else has told thousands years ago calling idiots someone else. Do you know how long the bible had been written? It took at least 600 years, I bet you don't remember, what happened 2 years ago and couldn't write a book about it. People are spiritual beings, everything what you think you can find inside yourself. Not in Jesus or any God or Krishna or Zeus. Only you. Jesus is mystification created by people and you as a right sheep repeat, what was told to you to repeat. Start from investigation how bible was written, then maybe I say maybe you realize, that your mind is cemented. Good Luck, because you must be very limited human being. Congratulation.


Go Back To The Grave

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"Let me put it in a language you may understand. Jesus said we should love our fellow human beings didn't he? He didn't say we should suffer their misery in order for us to have a 100 inch telly? Mother Theresa said that charity starts at home. Why is the USA giving away billions in foreign aid if it's own citizens are suffering? Because it is a tool of foreign policy it's why."

Exactly nd I am not talking about aid to help the needy in other countries but why on earth do we give billions to countries that hate us? Countries that use the money to buy weapons to use against us? It is insanity

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