Goth died in 1989. I was around back then, and yes, I was goth, and I was (and am) a Stevie Nicks fan, too.
Anything that refers to itself as "goth" after 1989 isn't goth. It's artificial goth. It's faux goth. It's babygoff. It's vampire or emo. Goth was an era, not a fashion statement. Goths didn't label themselves, and the minute the media conglomerates started using the label on us, the subculture was dead.
You can't have a counter-cultural movement if it doesn't remain COUNTER-cultural, and when goth went mainstream and preppies started dying their hair black and buying pre-torn, pre-painted "goth" clothes from mall stores that was the end. It was over.
Still, I like this movie, and I think this was Sara Rue at her most beautiful. It's a shame the distributor screwed everyone over.
I find it hilarious that Zerocorpse is trying to defend their point of view while completely sounding exactly like what the catty *beep* were doing to Clive, criticizing him and making fun of him,
I swear I am not attacking Zerocorpse, and I swear I am not trying to start an argument, but, Zerocorpse's comment describes perfectly what leftbanker was talking about: how people who reject the Official Rules and Regulations of [mostly American} Life, so often seem to need to write (and enforce!) a rulebook for their own little worlds...
I will agree that Goth is not what it used to be, I will agree that Hot topic totally changed everything and made it worst, but that does not mean goth is completely over, THIS MOVIE WAS RELEASED IN 2001 For God's Sake!!
the last time I checked The Cure is still releasing albums, siouxsie and the banshees is still doing shows, I mean, if it truly was dead, there would be nothing left from that 80's era, Hot topic is just a store, it doesn't define a person or a culture, and not everyone that goes to hot topic is goth or emo, it's just a store that makes money,
what I mean is, I was born in 86, Is not my fault I was not born earlier than that, I mean, I know goth started in the 80s, but, i dont think that means it was only in the 80s things change, it is inevitable, maybe things are not the exact same that they were in the 80s, but, I think is silly to adjust an entire culture to a decade, I think is more of an issue of the young generation against the older generation,
I guess what people call "elder goth"? I mean for what i had understood, they were different kinds of Goth even,
but, I don't know, I completely agree with Zerocorpse that there are a lot of hot topic clones and that listen to hip emo bands just because that's what their friends hear, but at the same time there are some some people that identify with the Goth culture that just happen to be younger,that's all,
I mean, it really is a double edged sword, people want it to be about originality and expression of yourself, but at the same time if they dont follow a strict set of goth rules you are labeled a poser, is like walking on thin ice, or hanging by a thread, if someone happens to like a band that is not so called "goth" is like they have to totally hide it, I kinda wish everyone just relaxed,
Again, I agree with Zerocorpse to an extend, and I respect the opinion but, not everyone born after 1985 is a poser,
Also, ZeroCorpse comment reminds me of the movie SLC Punk, the main character says something like that, but about punk,
and about the whole Stevie Nicks, I did not know either, I don't live in New York, I knew about her and her music, but i didn't know about the goth following
I'll look down, and whisper
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