was the lottery to go on the contenders meant to be completely random?
does anyone have an opipion on whether the lottery was meant to be completely random or did people choose to be put in the lottery?
sharedoes anyone have an opipion on whether the lottery was meant to be completely random or did people choose to be put in the lottery?
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It was most likely completely random(except for the very young I would assume, or maybe not, who knows), because the majority of them were visibly upset about this. Also, why would someone want to sign up for this?
And the reason they all lived in the same city is because the show picks a city and THEN randomly selects people from it. :)
I think the people in the show watched a TV commercial telling them that they'd be "An army of one"; that they'd get money for college and even a free boonie hat for requesting 'more information'
I think it was completely at random. They chose the city completely at random, then filtered the list of social security numbers to randomly choose 5 or 6 people who lived in that city, and were aged between say 18 and 70.
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One flaw in that idea is that 'Series 7' uses 'series' in the British sense, where it is used to refer to what we call 'seasons' in the US. The show had been done 6 times before. They knew exactly what the show was when they signed up.
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nobody signed up. It was a forced lottery in the city of the producers choosing. Everybody didn't want to play. Sure they didn't go into detail over it, but nobody would want to play this. You never win either, like the pregnant woman is like a 4 time winner or something. This is her life, and she didn't want it that way.
shareI haven't watched it in a while now but I think I recall them showing it as a lottery and picking people by random. They choose a city or town and then pick people at random from that place.
But then I haven't watched it in a long time so I might be confusing it with something else.
I believe it is completely random as well, but why, then, would everyone (including fellow contender Connie) judge Dawn for her actions? She is clearly doing what is required to stay alive. Kill or be killed.
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It's what people typically do when they watch reality TV. Most people are pulled in by the voyeurism. After the gimmick has sunk in people tend to focus on the personality traits of the contestants to decide who they personally. In this movie the show was popular therefor the people have become adapted to the idea that murder is acceptable and they have no problem comparing themselves to the people in the game and deciding who they would like to win.
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It seems to be completely random, due to the fact of the lottery and the "government issued identification numbers". Also why would a pacifist sign up for it? Sure, he has cancer and wants death, but still? Why would a "religious" nurse sign up?
shareI used to think it was completely random, but I think perhaps they dug up some of Dawn's past - I mean, how 'ratings-grabbing' would that be? Old childhood sweethearts pitted against each other in a game of kill-or-be-killed. Imagination the ratings . . . so I think perhaps the others were random, but I am slightly in doubt about Jeff.
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I think its random, as in the lottery scenario...
BUT maybe has an element where some parts of society can sign up...
Like Tony.....it seemd like he signed up for it.
Yet..the old man...seemd irate at being put into the thick end.
Theres conflict with one or the other way.
So its either a slight script problem (which doesnt really get in the way of the characters) OR...
uh who knows...
The lottery is by no means random, nor is there ever supposed to be a winner. If you pay attention to who is selected, it is (very broadly) those who do not fit in with society or can be seen as some sort of a drain.
The game is a means to eliminate these people from society, and by televising it (which I assume is the tacit approval of the viewer that it is okay for these types of people to die), there is a soft disconnect between the killings and the moral stance of the viewer.
Just my opinion, but it isn't as though they had CEOs, LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers), and MDs out trying to kill each other. They have an expectant mother without a means to support herself or her child, a man dying from a terminal disease, a nurse who has been killing patients, and so on. If I remember correctly, the contractor was out of work (another possible welfare case).
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Yet..the old man...seemd irate at being put into the thick end
Yet..the old man...seemd irate at being put into the thick end
It could have been random or what I think is that they rigged the lottery to put some interesting people on. Otherwise it's a pretty big coincidence that they drew Jeff's number to be on the show to fight his high school sweetheart Dawn. I don't think anyone signed up for the show. The announcer said they were drawn at random by their Social Security numbers I think..but you know reality tv shows I'm pretty sure they rig some things.
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I think overall it is a lottery, but this season they wanted to get Dawn's highschool sweatheart for the biggest climax in the shows history. It's all about the ratings.
shareI doubt it is random
The odds of two people with an existing relationship ending up on the same program resulting from a national lottery would be astronomical. Something like one trillion to one.
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My theory is that it's meant to look random, but the producers use their discretion to add drama to the cast. I think that all citizens over 16 are eligible to compete, and are actually required by law to compete if selected.
Think about it - a government sponsored reality TV show, endorsing murder for entertainment purposes.
If you look at the "cast" of Series 7, they cover a broad demographic - the teenager, the middle aged married man, the older man and woman, the cute sexually ambigious man.... something to appeal to everyone. Each of them has a story that has the potential to make the public fall in love with them, and each has a potential storyline of growth, or redemption, or love.
And of course, the biggest license the producers took in the seventh series is to select Jeff, Dawn's first love. It's probably the greatest dramatic story they've had in all 7 seasons - former young lovers, one dying, one pregnant, both knowing what they have to do yet trying to fend off the inevitable
I wonder what happens to people who refuse to play the game? Are they taken into custody? Do they suffer terrible accidents like poor Tony who suffered a self inflicted knife wound to the back?
This film is just so thought provoking, I've loved it for years and everytime I show it to a friend, they come up with new ideas and thoughts.
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18, you're a legal adult when you are 18, not 16. She was 18, and eligible to compete. That's why the mother was so shocked and upset at first because she thought that her daughter even though she is 18 meets the age requirements, she is still a baby to her mother.
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That's my take too; it may be supposedly random but really they fix it to get best viewing figures and/or to pick people who don't really add to society - maybe they knew the nurse had 'helped a few people on their way' as she admitted quite easily near the beginning...
FWIW the deleted scenes also reveal that the old man who was upset with being choosen was a conspiracy 'nut' and lined his house with aluminium foil and lead to keep out the microwave transmissions from a nearby communications tower - his complaint about wearing the microphone was part of a longer scene where he was going on about it's microwaves 'frying your brain'...
Given the false reenactment ending and improbability of high school sweethearts, 3 men 3 women, all ages being chosen at random, I like to think the game is completely rigged. It answers more questions for me, though there are still exceptions: "She didn't sign up for this!" springs to mind, implying someone did sign up. I think everyone's told that it's random to appease the audience and contender's sense of fairness; keeping them playing. The government's already clearly corrupt: if they're willing to let their citizens hunt each other down for entertainment/social control, why sweat the details of fair casting?
They pick a wide demographic, average people who are non-important (or draining) to society, yet personally compelling enough for ratings. Didn't know old man was supposed to be a conspiracy nut, but I think his death scene also hinted at some underlying set up. After 6 series watching increasingly improbable plot lines, you probably wouldn't need to be a conspiracy theorist to begin questioning the selection process or true series of events itself, as we do in the audience.