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My thoughts on the movie / Response to the criticism


I really don't get the negative reviews. And I'll address the most common ones in a minute. But before, my opinion of the movie.

1. The storyline was thrilling, including the way those two got together and how it led to their affair. Like, "Is she gonna do it?" "If so, how?" "How will the husband?"

2. The acting was awesome, especially by Diane Lane. Gere was great too. And even that Paul.

3. The sex was sexy. I know, you'll say, "Of course it's sexy, it's right in the word, 'sex'!" Yeah, but not all sex on TV is hot. This one was, very passionate and rapey - the way he just grabbed a hold of her to give her the business, and also her general sluttiness was just hot. Now you might say, "But this isn't a porno, so 'sexy' shouldn't earn the movie extra points!" I disagree, because the movie wasn't trying to be a porno, in that, the sexiness wasn't the main feature of it. So as long it only titillates you passingly and sparsely, then I'd say that's a plus, and that's cool.

4. The last 15 or so minutes got kind of boring. Nothing was happening anymore, and things got a little too sappy for my taste.

So all in all, nice movie.

Now onto the criticisms. They mostly revolved around it being unrealistic. And the three chief accusations of unrealism were:

1. "What woman would jeopardize her marriage like that just for some hot sex with a stranger?" This one is kind of stupid because it could apply to pretty much all extramarital affairs. Yeah, of course straying imperils most relationships! And yet people keep doing it. I say "most" because in some cases the other party knows and they kind of made their peace with it. But I read that statistic the other day that something like a third of married people admitted to having had an affair in the last 10 years of their marriage. You think they don't know there's a good chance things might go awry because of it? Of course they do, but they do it anyway. Diabetics know sweets aren't good, but some of them give in to their sweet tooth every now and then.

2. "If I had a well-to-do, handsome man like that as a husband, I wouldn't look at any other guy twice." Maybe not in the first five years. And yeah, that husband was attractive in his own right. He provided the much-desired security to the woman, both financial and emotional. But when we have too much security, we start craving excitement, and that's what that bad boy loser with an accent provided.

3. "Like a hot guy like this one would go for a middle-aged woman!" First of all, he didn't fall for her or had a full-on relationship with her or anything; he was just mostly screwing her. And second, not all middle-aged women are created equal. If I had to put a percentage, I'd say a solid fifth of women in their forties are attractive. And Diane was - she had nice hair and skin color, and sexy legs and breasts, wasn't wrinkly/saggy, and was pretty feminine in demeanor. So the thought that a good-looking dude in his late twenties could lust over her like he was, come on to her, trying to get her in bed, and finally devour her in said bed (or stairs, or bathroom) isn't far-fetched at all.

So yeah, the realism is just fine as far as I'm concerned. I read one say that that movie romanticized adultery. I guess it kind of did, to a degree, especially at first. But if you watch the whole thing, you'll realize that main takeaway from this was that it was a very bad idea! "It's fun until it isn't" kind of thing.

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I thought this movie was pretty good, for the most part, for many of the reasons that you stated. It is realistic to a point and the criticisms that you illustrate are just people blowing smoke because we all know that many marriages don't last because of infidelity. I think the whole message was that being unfaithful can lead to life changing events, that are not always good, such as your husband murdering your lover and going to jail for a long time leaving your child without a father.

My only criticisms are:

1. The way the guy died. Being hit on the head with a globe and the river of blood that followed was comical. I wish that it was displayed much differently. Like maybe have him hit in the head and the orb cracks or breaks or he has to hit him numerous times in his fit of rage while the guy tries to defend himself. I guess what is shown wasn't violent enough for the outcome imo.

2. Not enough Diane Lane lol!

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Agree

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I liked this movie. Ollie Martinez was gorgeous. The way they had sex is very French, lol.

I did have a couple of gripes though. She didn’t try hard enough to keep her secret from the husband when she was getting ready for the fling. She was careless. Maybe that was intentionally trying to portray how carried away she was, but it didn’t make sense to me at the time.
But a bigger complaint was the snow globe being given as a gift. That thing was a symbol for her marriage. Only a demented nut job would have given such a gift from her husband to some rando guy she was cheating on him with.

When it came out people were complaining that Richard G was too sexy to play a boring stalwart husband. I was fine with it.

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That's a good point. The fact that she gave him that particular globe didn't make any sense. On top of that, he didn't seem like the type of person who really had any interests in collecting globes. However, maybe she thought that oh my husband likes these so maybe he will too. But giving him that particular one, which held significance to her marriage, didn't make sense and was lazy writing.

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SPOILERS:

Weren't the globes "their thing" to collect together? Now I'm remembering that there was a note in one of the globes that was supposed to be opened, I think on a big anniversary. Maybe this happened at the end after he went to jail. I'll have to see it again.

No, he didn't seem like a snow globe collecting type of guy, but maybe because his wife liked them he got into them. I think it was supposed to be a little romantic shared interest that manifested in a collection of bric-a-brac to sit on their table in the front room of their All American dream home in their small, wealthy commuter town.

I guess seeing that his wife had given it to the lover was the impetus behind him bashing in the lover's brains. Seeing the globe in the guys apartment must have made a statement to him, that his wife was tossing aside what was sacred and pure to them and squandering it on this Soho hipster.

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There was a note in that particular globe which is why I think it was silly that she gave that one away. I think he discovers it when he goes to put it back at their house.

Yes, the globe was certainly the catalyst for his moment of lunacy because of what it represented.

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Didn't he write the note to her?

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OK, I looked up the plot and found this:

"In the days that follow, while looking at the underside of the snow globe, Connie discovers a hidden compartment containing a photograph of her, Edward, and an infant Charlie, with a loving anniversary message instructing her not to read the message until their 25th wedding anniversary. As Connie is burning the photographs of her and Paul in the fireplace, Edward says he will turn himself in. Connie objects, saying they will find a way to move on. The two then appear to go about living a normal life. One night, while driving, with Charlie sleeping in the backseat, Edward stops the car at an intersection due to red light. Connie whispers to Edward that they could leave the country and assume new identities, and Edward agrees to the idea. Connie then starts crying, and Edward consoles her. It is revealed that Edward has stopped his car near a police station."

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Yeah, I guess it didn't make much sense. But then again, this was a portrayal of a woman caught by animal instinct, one who was behaving on the borders of reason and risk. See that scene of her first commute back home on that train? That's a woman whose reason had just taken a backseat to her emotions; exhilaration and despair took over the wheel.

As to Richard Gere, he always struck me as husband-material type of attractive. I'm straight, but if we're gonna call him sexy, then he's sexy "that way" first and foremost. He's the established guy who gives some lost hooker a sense of security and a warm home. He's the upper-middle-class type of handsome and sexy. So even though he wasn't an out-and-out boring stalwart, he was still perfect for the role.

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Oh man, have you seen the movies that made him famous? He was a heartthrob - Looking for Mr. Goodbar, American Gigolo, Officer and a Gentlemen, Breathless. Those last three came all in a row and catapulted him to A List hottie.

By Pretty Woman he was in his 40's, so more of an established guy type, as you say and still was for the Unfaithful Edward role. I guess I can see how older fans who were really swayed by those early roles of his would still see him as a hot guy as they are aging along with him.

Yeah, Connie really did go off the rails. Makes her grabbing the globe to give to Paul make a lot more sense and serve as a symbol of her reckless abandonment.

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Yeah, I haven't seen those. I only saw him in this one, in Pretty Woman, and the one with Susan Sarandon. So to me he's always been a dad, albeit a romantic one at that.

I guess he's kind of like Nicolas Cage that way, whom I always knew as that Weatherman guy or the one with OCD in that Matchstick movie. Even though there was crime and some action in those films, he was still recognizably "grown-up" in demeanor and behavior, including in Con Air. So that was the Cage I knew. And then years later, I watched Valley Girl and I was like "Wtf" - 20-something little punk, completely unrecognizable. So I guess I'd understand those who grew up to know him as that juvenile bad boy would keep seeing him that way decades later.

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