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Love the film. Only one puzzle: Is Darby drunk when he dies?


I dislike movies that have too many cryptic plot points and too many unknown explanations for why characters do stupid stuff. This movie, however, explained every nuance to my satisfaction except for one.

When Darby shows up at the Hall family home late at night, apparently hoping to become intimate with Beau, is Darby drunk?

We know that during the car accident, the aftermath of which we see in flashback, Beau was drunk. Most likely, Darby gave him alcohol illegally. Beau is underage. Darby is an adult who likes to drink.

If Darby is drunk on the dock next to the Hall family home, that would make his accidental death very convincing. He impales himself on an anchor while Beau isn't looking. Beau isn't looking because Darby has become mean and violent and is chasing Beau.

The editor of this movie cuts away very quickly from the moment in which Darby impales himself. I had to rewind and review the fleeting image. The editor and director give you much more time the next morning to follow Margaret as she examines the dead body, the broken wood and the metal anchor, and her facial expression indicates she is deducing what happened.

For the remainder of the movie, Margaret never speaks the truth about Darby's death based on her being the only person who saw the dead body before she staged the scenario of drowning.

Therefore, I wondered how a physically fit young man could chase someone and then, while standing or walking, how he could impale his torso on a sharp metal object. I wondered that for a few minutes, then I decided, "Being drunk is a sufficient explanation for me." Any thoughts on the presence of alcohol? Thanking people in advance

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Yes I think it's implied that he has been drinking (either drunk or somewhat tipsy) but I think the main idea was that he was woozy from the hit in the head and kind of blacked out a bit but landed on the anchor.
As for "staging a drowning" I didn't get that idea. Someone with a huge hole in their chest and found in water hasn't just drowned. I think she just wanted the body away from their place possibly without thinking through a possible scenario. Just panic mode, get this body away from here.

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Thanks for your feedback. To reiterate, I love this film. Anyone who says it is homophobic is being egotistical.

The plot has a foundation in a few bad choices that a mostly well-behaved teen boy has made.

The screenwriter has chosen not to dwell on the negative behavior of a gay man who has associated with the mostly well-behaved teen boy. The screenwriter puts the spotlight on the boy's mother. What about her feelings? What about her intelligence? What about her ability to solve a problem? In the final scene, we realize that mother and son can have a very strong bond even though neither knows enough information about the other's recent behavior to pass judgment on it. All that matters is that they are alive and healthy, not at all injured physically.

The people with whom mother and son have interacted very recently are dead because of their bad choices and because of the risk that every driver takes by driving a car at night. Mother and son are alive and well. They must move on. That is what matters. And maybe the teen boy has learned to be more careful about associating with sexually aggressive gamblers. He doesn't have to know exactly what his mother did to prevent his future from getting compromised. Personally, I never knew certain things that my mother did on my behalf when I was underage.

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Why does it take you seven paragraphs to ask a single quedtion?

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rgibson-20 asked why it took me seven paragraphs to ask that question.

Because I simply can't say enough wonderful things about this movie. It is unusually good for a movie that was hardly on the A list in 2001.

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