God Forbid i might actually have to read something! I mean movies arnt books duh! *end sarcasm
I swear I am tired of hollywood making remakes of PERFECTLY good movies. just look at taxi. Problem is, americans think movies like taxi with latifa is the only taxi movie ever made.
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Remakes should be made a decade after the original. You know, like to use new technology. This movie works. No need to put american actors in it, and have same old hollywood 1-liners. I can see it now. THE Experiment-with Bruce Willis, Kevin Costner, Queen Latifa.
shareVoice over: "It was an experiment...that went terribly wrong... Chuck Norris in The Experiment..." :D Funny
shareIf there were complete and accurate subtitles available I would agree, but the subtitles didn't translate everything and they didn't even try to translate the text like in the newspapers. (At least in the copy I watched.) That annoys me.
I have never seen a movie in another language where I was impressed with the quality subtitles.... wait, I take it back.. the subtitles in "Pan's Labyrinth" were pretty good as I remember. But I don't think they had reading material that needed to be translated, so they got off easy.
And in this particular film, some scenes were extremely drawn out to me and could have been shortened to give us more scenes to understand why the guards personalities made such a dramatic change. If a guy goes from playing hoops with the prisoners to trying to rape someone who isn't even supposed to be a member of the volunteers, I want more character development. It just seemed like too dramatic of a change to not explore it farther.
There is a remake coming anyways, so lets hope it's more like the true story.
Please do not cast Queen Latifah!;)
shareno ,tomany american remakes have ruined good mlovies ,dark water ,the ring ,ect,leave this super movie well alone
sharethey are remaking it right now. look into the movie connection page. it'll be pointless and bad but maybe i'll give it a chance if it gets good reviews.
shareDoes America make *any* original films? There are more than 250 million Americans. Surely one of them has had an original idea in the last decade? The whole "flog some filthy foreigner's idea, dumb it down and add melodrama" thing is getting really old. </vent>
No sh*t ey! Couldn't have put what you just said better myself!
So I aint holdin nuthin back & muthafu**er I got 5 on the 20 sack!
I am an American, and I can't stand much of the crap that's coming out of Hollywood lately. Das Experiment was one of my favorite movies I've ever seen, one of just a few to actually elicit an emotional reaction towards the end.
The thing is, outside of America it's hard to see that Hollywood is not America. Hollywood gets thousands of screenplays a day full of original ideas, but they are incredibly stubborn and agenda-driven. An example would be the recent movie, Lions for Lambs, a purely agenda-driven movie that had a couple of decent performances (nothing great) but it was just a bad idea, it wasn't interesting, and overtaken by the point it was trying to make. The thing is, a movie came out a little over a year ago from Hollywood (I hate that the name escapes me right now) that was almost exactly the same movie, but it bombed in the box office because nobody wanted to see that sort of movie, yet fact that this movie bombed wasn't enough to stop another agenda-driven movie from coming out. The problem is that Hollywood makes movies for Hollywood, not the viewers.
You don't get fired from your job for doing what's been done before, but you can if you put yourself out on a limb with an original idea that fails. Sequels usually don't bomb, neither do remakes, so they keep making them.
I hate dumbed-down remakes just as much, if not more, than the next guy, just keep in mind that Hollywood isn't the rest of America.
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I love it how Americans make fun of the mateiral coming out of their own country with little or no knowledge whatsoever of the material that is released in other countries. Truth is, that while there are many amazing foreign films out there, there are also tons of crap coming from those countries as well as in America.
Yes, Americans who bash American movies need to realize that Hollywood doe snot represent American movies, there are tons of GREAT indie American films out there. So please stop bashing movies that come from America and Hollywood, because EVERYONE makes crap but there have also been GREAT masterpieces that have come from there.
How in the hell does "Crash" win Best Picture and "Do The Right Thing" didnt even get nominated?
No matter how much brain mashing anyone does about Hollywood movies, the bottom line is they do it to make money and they are successful at making money. Money is the bottom line, Hollywood films are like a multinational corporation, to imagine that they have any purpose other than profit is simply to be naive. The funny thing is Hollywood makes films that sell very well abroad, not only in countries without massive film-making infrastructure, but also in countries with much cinema pride such as UK, Australia, France, Quebec, Italy, Spain, Japan, China and India.
***So I've seen 4 movies/wk in theatre for a 1/4 century, call me crazy?**
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shareI would generally agree with this, but this case is different. They aren't "remaking" this movie, but are making a movie based on the real Stanford Prison Experiment, which "Das Experiment" is "not" based on.
shareDas Experiment wasn't exactly original.
It was partly based on a book (I can't remember the name) and also partly based on the psychological experiment by Zimbardo.
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crisotto,
I know that I'm late getting to the discussion, but your comment was so stupid I had to respond.
First of all, there are 300 million Americans, not 250 million. I know that's only a difference of 50 million people, but that's probably more people than you have in your tiny fun-sized country.
How can you criticize the American film industry as being unoriginal? You sound like a complete moron. Yes, the US makes a lot of remakes. Big deal. We also make a lot of original films as well. You look foolish when you completely ignore the hundreds of original screenplays that get produced by American studios every year.
The irony of all this is that "Das Experiment" is not an original movie. It was inspired by a real study at Stanford University (referenced earlier) and based on a book. Using your "logic," I guess I can surmise that the German film industry is entirely vapid, trite, and unimaginative.
Finally, get off your elitist European high horse. No one wants to hear your insecure rants about how Americans ruin everything. Boo-hoo.
No american would name their kid Rupert!
shareNewsflash: Rupert is no more my real name than satansassasin is yours. It's called a handle. And by the way, I personally know an American named Rupert. So much for your theory.
shareDear god, that poor poor American.
Careful what you say to me. I will argue with you forever. I enjoy trying to prolong arguments :D
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I have no problem with remakes... this brings the film to the attention of the general public, and then people generally, from my experience, seek out the original of that film.
If someone wants to waste the money making a new version then fine, its not my money! I don't get why they don't just save money and re-release the original with better publicity though.
Ha Ha Ha! You've got to laugh when you fall off a sofa... bloody sofa
I disagree..
Remakes gather attention that should be granted to the original..
How many you think actually understands that Vanilla Sky is an exact remake of the original (Abre los ojos by Amenábar)?
Instead people think that Cameron Crow is a visionary even though he deserves practically no credit for making again a movie that was already good..
If you want to bring attention to the original film then you re-release it - don't copy it with someone other's name on it..
(I know - The Grudge was directed by its original Japanese director, but it doesn't affect much on what I mean.. Still people generally think it is the scariest movie ever made even though it is only a light version of the original film).
The Grudge is indeed the scariest movie ever. I'm absolutely terrified of movies with no plot.
In other news, I love Das Experiment. I don't feel it needs to be remade at all, and if it was, would probably not be all that good. Undoubtedly, American audiences will despise Haneke's Funny Games (though I love that film also).
While I do agree that The Grudge is a quite scary film to some point you are not seeing the big picture..
You can see it quite easily even in America when you notice that MPAA rated The Grudge as PG-13 while the original film is rated R..
(I am not saying that every R rated films is scarier than any film that is rated PG-13, but come on! There is a huge difference in styles when you make a scary movie to an adult than when you make one to a teenager.)
If you don't believe me, here is a movie I recommend you to see:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364385/
jutuomin
In my opinion, when Hollywood remakes movies (wich should not be done before a decade of it's original release), it would be preferable to have input from its original creators.
shareMost American Remakes of Foreign films...and when I say most I mean 999 out of 1000 are garbage.
Nuff Said.
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Well, i saw previews of Funny Games U.S. and it seemed to be pretty much word for word the same as the original German version. Plus, they have a good cast (Pitt, Roth, Watts). It's probably a good thing it was the director of the original who decided to remake it and I think it's going to be a success.
shareFunny Games U.S works because it's a shot - by - shot remake and by the same director as the original.
I would hate to see Das Experiment remade for the American market, it would inevitably be cheapened to attract a wider audience and make a profit.
Why can't people just watch and appreciate originals? Corporate greed is killing cinema
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i don't think das experiment is being remade. the film that is like das experiment is based on the real life experiment that happened in stanford, which das experiment was based off of. so really it's just a retelling of what happened...only hollywood-ized. maybe zimbardo would have some input.
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Your comment makes you an idiot, my friend. It's a shame that I didn't see this sooner otherwise I could've responded with more gusto.
Why would you say that Americans think that "movies like taxi with latifa is the only taxi movie ever made?"
Anyone with a shred of intelligence knows that it takes an idiot to make a sweeping statement of the sort you have just made. You, my dear, are an idiot.
please dont remake this
its a good film
what good could possibly come of an american remake? and why do we need an american remake? why not just show das experiment in american cinemas and maybe - just maybe - introduce the main stream audience to films outside of hollywood?!
Mirror, mirror on the wall, who makes the most fitting comment to himself of all?
Congratulations you won! ;-)
Proof:
Let's extract the one sentence of "content" from your post full of insults and mindless ramble:
"Why would you say that Americans think that "movies like taxi with latifa is the only taxi movie ever made?""
What you probably didn't understand is that he is not talking of taxi movies in general but of the movie "Taxi" written by Luc Besson:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0152930/
which was very poorly remade for the American audience (and Queen Latifa):
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0316732/
Thank you for proving, that asti223 was absolutely right and that your own comment best befits yourself: ;-)
"Anyone with a shred of intelligence knows that it takes an idiot to make a sweeping statement of the sort you have just made. You, my dear, are an idiot."
They are making an american (english) remake of this movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0420293/
According to wikipedia they are making a remake O_o
"The Experiment, an American remake of the film, is currently in production. It will be directed by Paul Scheuring and star Adrien Brody, Forest Whitaker, Elijah Wood and Cam Gigandet. Filming begins in Iowa in July 2009."
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