I knew already about the Standford experiment, i pretty much assumed how will be this movie, but so much anger and fury were present in the second half of the movie that took me completely by surprise. The only time when i was almost this angry, was at that awful "the last castle" with R. Redford. Nevermind why.
Is it wrong if i regret that Berus character didn't die or at least suffer much more (at least a rape...anything!)?
Yeah same here. I was in so much anger. I guess it proves that it's a good movie
shareNear the end when #38 catches and beats that fat guard I was just like "Kill him! Kill him!" These guys' behaviour just made me incredibly angry. I hope they all got their punishment in the end.
"You didn't come here just to have tea, did you?" - "There are biscuits, too..."
Which fat guard was beaten by #38 ?
The "Elvis" guard was hit on the head,using a fire extinguisher, by the imprisoned guard "Bosch".
In the end #38 showed off some of his martial arts skills against 2-3 other guards.
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I actually found Berus to be something of a sympathetic character. I'm not saying I condone his actions from the second half of the movie in any way and that they weren't monstrous and amoral but he came across a very human villian who I somehow couldn't truly hate. In the first half of the movie I found him a lot more likable than our troublemaking ostensible hero who I really couldn't stand and who was to a large extent responsible for a lot that went down.
shareYou sound like Lars Von Trier.
shareI definitely agree. Berus kind of wanted to do what is "right". But I guess that is how far right will get you in an institution like a prison.
shareyes i think this was the most pissed i have ever been while watching a movie. i had to keep telling myself that the guards would probably get what was coming to them by the film's end.
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Really? did you... are you american by any chance??
I have to agree with skutter2 - I think the main point of the film is that they were ALL fairly normal average guys at the beginning of the film, it was the experiment that made them all lose control...
And if it was anyone's fault then it was #77's for winding them up in the firstplace.
I think he just exhelerated the process. It would have come down to that one way or another. Brilliant film though. I've never felt such intense emotions in a film. It took me by complete surprise.
sharetruly agree. I wanted that guy (Berus i think)
to die. I have never felt such anger from a movie before.
Why no oscars for this?
They're keeping the Oscars for the Hollywood remake... *sigh*
shareWell well well. I agree it was easy to hate Berus, but note the responses. You want him dead. Heads smashed in,a little rape would be nice,and it's 77's fault for winding them up. ( That would include doing a good deed by drinking the other fellow's milk???) Bastard. And why didn't one guard become cruel?? All of these guards seem to have gone home at night,leaving them time to decompress,unlike the prisoners.
please note this is based on a real experiment that had to be ended after 6 days.
A mixture of herd mentality and power doesn't do much good.
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why does this movie need to be remade? Surely an (American) audience can sit thru this film without saying it needs to be remade with an all American cast in order to be able to "understand" this movie and the powerful things in it?
shareBecause, generally speaking, the movie going masses in America can't read fast enough to make watching foreign language films a pleasant experience for them.
And I'm not being bigoted because I'm American myself. This is just what I've learned based on observing people return their tickets in a huff when they learn they have to read subtitles.
Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid.
- Kin Hubbard
This was better than the American version, but still the guards got out easily.
I got to watch The Stanford Prison Experiment to see how it was in reality.
I think it's more of a case of what unmerited power can do to you. The guards were given unimaginable control over some human beings and they totally lost the plot. #77 was just merely taking the piss and didn't intend what his actions lead to. The guards are to be blamed the most.
shareAll could still have been controllable, had the leading PROFESSOR taken his responsibilities and stop or re-route this experiment at the right time. He should have known what dangers there were, he's a trained psychologist, for godsake! All that has happened, is more or less his responsibility.
"I don't discriminate between entertainment
and arthouse. A film is a goddam film."
If you were angry watching this movie try The Girl Next Door 2007 and I bet you would want to either shot all this kids or smash there heads with baseball bat.
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