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COULDN'T YOU HAVE SLAPPED ELI?


I have been with guys that act like him - correcting figures of speech and vocal inflections (the fuzzy wuzzy thing). I wanted to slap Eli's face when - as Tom was opening his heart with the "alls I know" dialogue - Eli sneered and made fun of the "alls I know".

Now, I believe in the proper usage of the English language, but something like an "alls I know" phrase sounds damn cute coming from some people.

Why the hell did Eli focus on a phrase when Tom was really reaching out, begging Eli to accept him as he was, and sharing his frustration that he was not?

I admit I didn't like Tom in the first few minutes - that blind date from hell, changing his drink order every other second. I also thought Tom was mocking Eli's love of Gone With the Wind when he got the character names mixed up, but as he didn't ever see it, of course he was going to say something like Red Buttons and Charlotte. I mix things up all the time, I'll never know if a certain phrase is "far and few in between" or "few and far in between", because I don't use it very often. Mostly, I say "it's rare".

I went out with an "Eli" that drove me insane with his constant nit-picking. It made me jittery, and out of that, I did some jerky things because I had no idea how to be around this one, because he expected too much.

Aw, hell - I'm going back and watching the movie again right now - see ya.


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sounds like the guy didn't really like you.

Eli was correcting him/lashing out because he was holding back his frustrations with Tom that were lying below the surface. I was glad...Tom was an idiot.

I'm a gay man, and I (apparently the vast minority on this board) couldn't stand this movie. How can you say its depiction of homosexuals isn't stereotypical? You have the standard alcoholic gay guy who hooks up with guys and is afraid of commitment...that's original. For someone who hooks up as much as Tom, you'd think it wouldn't be such a big deal for the two of them to have anal sex (apparently two men should never go there without a prescription...god). How old are they, like early 30's? If my sex life was like that, i'd slit my wrists....seriously...the muttered "i love you" amidst the "oh god's"...it was horrible.

They had such lame typical issues and yet went over and over them. It was like they were teenagers...sexually, socially, and emotionally. What really threw me over the edge though was at the wedding...where admist the climax of their relationship drama...they come back together to make fun of the grandmother's ouftit...like that's some charming "they're meant for each other" kind of thing. Yes...this really is a breakthrough motion picture for homosexuals.

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sounds like the guy didn't really like you.

Well, I didn't really like him much, either, really. He liked how I looked, then when he realized how different our personalities were, that's when he freaked. He was one of the first guys I'd met when I came out. I like men, sure, but I wasn't sure how to "be" - "am I a good gay man?" Dumb, I know, but I was searching then.

How can you say its depiction of homosexuals wasn't stereotypical?

Because I saw nothing resembling Will and Grace, thank God. These two guys, in my humble opinion, suggested David and Keith from Six Feet Under. I made that remark about stereotypes when I saw Tom carrying on the way he did - he seemed more like a stereotypical straight man - I appreciated the Gone With the Wind segment because it reminded me of when I'd said to a gay man that I'd hated Grease for a period of time (I got to like it again after a while -it was just one of those things, I guess) - anyway, his face fell. Eli is very stereotypical, but it was Tom I didn't think was.

they come back together to make fun of the grandmother's ouftit

OH, yeah, that was a pretty awkward moment - and you're right, that part was stereotypical - I didn't care for that part of it.

I was really drunk at the time, but yes, absolutely - I certainly was in the right.

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not all gay stereotypes are lisping queens, you know.

and Grease does suck.

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Amen, remerez-1

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I don't think there has been a LBGT movie out that someone hasn't said was stereotypical in some way. I like to think that the fundamental issue is where people are in terms of there own sexuality. Internalize oppression (IO) is a mudderf u c ker

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What would everyone say if there ever turned out to be a film made with NO stereotypes? I can tell you: "We don't act like that! None of us act like that! They're giving us a bad name! People are gonna think we act like that!!! Wwwwwwaaaaaahhh!!! Wwwwwaaaaaahhhhh!!! But what really defines a stereotype? It's as though when the lips of two men or two women meet on screen, something about them falls into a stereotype. We will search for it, and we will pick it apart until we find it, just so we can bitch about it, and when we can't find it anyway, we will just bitch nonetheless.

We bitch when the characters are like us (screaming the word "stereotypes" - getting SICK of that word)
We bitch when they're NOT like us.

Maybe it's just because we're all gay and we just love to bitch.


...because EVERYONE is entitled to my opinion.

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yeah, i could've slapped eli. but i loved his charactor with all of his flaws. he was a bit anal wasn't he and a know it all. i know 2 guys like that too. and they both are gay. wait, wait, before i'm lynched, i'm not saying all gays are that way. just so happen i know two. lol

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I understand what you're all saying, but Eli also got cranky about the "Fuzzy Wuzzy" thing because Tom dismissed him in a rejecting way when he made a sexual advance about the gay doll, "not today". So that made him criticize him more easily.

Also, saying "alls I know" or "anyways" (with the "s" at the end) is actually very juvenile and uneducated sounding. I did that as a kid but now when I hear it from a grown adult I do rather cringe.

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