I never did understand that scene, Did I miss something in the dialogue?
shareThe men just abducted them from the park and took them to the garage and raped them. You'll be surprise at the number of stories of women jsut grabbed off the street and raped, sometimes in a van going around the block and just dropped off.
shareI had assumed that it was because they aren't French.
sharewell i dont like the movie but from what i understand its because manu made a porn movie nad then was spotted
that why the guy tills her , do u want to rebel now before raping here
how does this tie into Manu killing her friend/barkeep--or why does she do it...?
i have a vague idea, but i watched the film w/o subs and my french is ok, but not great esp with slangs and francophone phrases--lol.
well, as said earlier they were victims by coincidence - no connection to their characters. The killing of her brother - as I interpreted it - was an accident, not really intended. The way I see it she was gesticulating with the gun and didn't mean to shoot.
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yeah, thx for yer interpretation, but i'm asking for a lot more details if not the subs/script portion of this scene.
thanks.
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it's just one hell of crazy movie.Another modern-day exploitative shocker.Much more excplicit,graphic (occasionally,were real)and brutal than in mid 70's. i felt numb when i was watching this movie a month ago..
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this type of sexual violence is prevalent in certain banlieus in paris - usually very poor, high crime and unemployment rates. The usual targets are non white women. They tend to be raped in gangs and have very little recourse to avenge their attackers/
shareIn a fit of anger she shot her brother. She met Nadine at a train station & they got chatting because last train had left. As for ATM machine well i think it's self evident that it was an armed robbery.
shareThis is a very belated reply to your question and you probably know by now but I saw it recently with English subtitles and her brother accused her basically of being a slut right after the rape and suggested it was her fault. She, being traumatized and now completely over the edge, snaps and shoots him.
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she, in true life, was raped by 3 guys that have seen a porn movie made by her.
the judge sayd that was her fault: she does porn movies...
again: three guys, right after she admitted doing porn.
no coincidence.
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this question is insulting to rape victims. should there ever be a "reason" to rape a woman??
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This movie was entertaining but didnt have a coherent story. It all seemed gratuitous to me. They way the two girls met was really stupid and fake.
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this question is insulting to rape victims. should there ever be a "reason" to rape a woman??
I don't think he meant to insult anyone. The scene is just a bit strange.
She killed her brother because he was becoming violent after he learned that she had been raped.
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I have a question, and I'm sorry if I appear ignorant and whatnot, without ever intending to be.
Why is SO wrong in wanting to understand a MOTIVATION for rape and know WHY it happens, as opposed to just believing it happens for no reason and just sticking with believing how bad it is and whatnot? Wouldn't understanding a motivation of why at least partially help to potentially stop or decrease the problem?
I mean, its not as if it always happens just like that and for no reason.
And there are PLENTY of people out there who do NOT rape, and it is NOT JUST because of the law and the society's standpoint against it. Rather, they are aware of the damage it causes (mental AND physical - as strange as the latter part might sound), plus they have no REAL interest in "forcing sex" on someone who "doesn't want" it.
Why do some people believe that finding a motivation for rape is insulting?
Like, are we just meant to overall accept, that rapists are those proverbial sick, out of control, "animals", who do it just because they're sick and that's it, and that it is an absolute truth and should be just accepted and left as such and philosophical debates about "why it happens" should not be happening, right?
Come to think of it, should we also not think about why murder happens, or any of the other countless crimes and infringements in the society? And even if that may actually cease the problem and help to solve it, should we still ignore the motivation behind it and not bother talking about how to stop it?
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@xombie55
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with wanting to understand a motivation for rape--rapists do it because it's a power trip for them, plain and simple, and they think they're entitled to a woman's body because that's what society,in so many ways, tells them. Psychologists and psychiatrists study the reason behind the motivation to do such a horrible crime ALL the time---just look up the info.
Partly true, except that society never tells anyone they're entitled to a woman's body, except maybe when they're married.
(One problem with the study of rape and its motivations is that it often becomes so politicized and distorted by irrational feminists.)
This analysis also ignores the reality of male-male rape. Does society also tell guys they're entitled to other guy's bodies?
Rape is clearly an amalgamation of power, sex, anger, and hate in most cases.
One area where I may agree with the feminists -- any rape victim (and their friends/families) should have the right to kill their rapists. And the penalties should be far more severe otherwise. No one has the right to force themselves on anyone else.
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