copycat


does anyone agree that this is a rip off of the late great bill hicks

reply

"shut up and sing the f*cking song pal"

Denis Leary rulez

reply

[deleted]

So what if he used another guys material for insperation comedians do it all the time anymore. Belive what you want but denis leary in a comic genius so shut the fuc.k up... next!

They thought they killed me. They were wrong, they were dead wrong.
-the Punisher

reply

[deleted]

theres his lock and load CD, im listening to it right now :)

reply

Denis Leary is funnier than Bill Hicks, whom he does not "copycat" but seek inspiration from. Have you heard how many comedians say they "borrow" from Richard Pryor? Almost every single one of them. (Even though I find Denis Leary to be even funnier than Richard Pryor too)

Whoever complained about Denis Leary's act is exactly like those wimpy people Denis Leary talks about in his act. "I'm not happy, I'm not happy...nobody's happy, shut the *beep* up...Life's tough, get a *beep* helmet."

reply

tru dat me friend

reply

It's one thing to draw inspiration from someone else's work, but it's bang out of order to copy the work *verbatim* (which he does!) and not even credit the guy on the DVD. At least imdb have credited Bill Hicks as co-writer, even if Denis Leary won't!

Hicks was pretty pissed off with Leary cos he was often copying his material, but you just gotta get on with stuff. Why worry, it's funny whoever says it.

Having said that, Leary's a real funny bloke & this DVD's great.

But Bill Hicks was *THE* MAN, and no-one's equalled or excelled him since his death......

reply

Bill Hicks was the best and will always be the best. Leary is not as funny as Hicks even though he uses his material.



"That's what you had to tell me? - your father wears sneakers in the pool!"

reply

I loved No Cure For Cancer, if Leary is so much like Bill Hicks, maybe i should check him out too. ;)

'Imagination gives you a high fidelity simulation' - Story Musgrave

reply

"I'm not happy, I'm not happy...nobody's happy, shut the *beep* up...Life's tough, get a *beep* helmet."

...and then steal other people's work, dumb it down, and pawn it off as your own. Artists are supposed to be INFLUENCD by other comedians; that is, by their act and approach to their art in general, not by stealing material from them. Leary's anger must come from the fact that he's an untalented, thieving hack.

reply

[deleted]

Oh, he was stealing from Hicks when Hicks was still alive. It's crazy. And has anyone noticed that since Hicks has passed, Leary has had NOTHING TO SAY! His best writer (uncredited) has died.

reply

I was a big Leary fan until I started hearing Bill Hicks. Then I got a little upset with Leary. It wasn't just a few things... it was big chunks that Leary's act hinged upon.

The whole smoking thing... Hicks. The tracheotomy bit, Yul Brynner and Jim Fixx, all of that was lifted straight from Hicks. It goes FAR beyond "inspiration", my friends. Denis Leary stole those bits from Bill Hicks.

The thing is, people confronted Leary about this while Bill was still alive because he was doing it well before the record came out. They travelled in different circles, but their paths crossed numerous times and both saw each other's acts. In the book "American Scream", someone confronts Leary about this and he just gave them a blank stare and walks away. Hicks himself was upset about it and felt betrayed by a fellow comedian, but kept writing new material almost up until his death.

Of the two, I think Leary is better looking and, in many's eyes, the better performer... he has his whole shtick down and it's fun to watch. Hicks was a bit drier and came across as more intelligent, but he could also be incredibly caustic and vicious in his performances. And though Leary is a better performer, Hicks delivered a better performance. You didn't know what to expect and his shows were each slightly different. He responded to the audience and adjusted his show to fit them. Leary has his script and works from it... you know what you're getting.

But to those of you who want to deny that Leary stole from Hicks, try this simple test... compare his records. No Cure For Cancer is a great listen and is very funny... Lock And Load... isn't. It's terrible. The jokes aren't the, the flow is absent, and it just doesn't hit at all. The only bit I can remember from it is the one about coffee... not being able to get coffee flavored coffee, only vanilla coffee and hazelnut coffee and... pheh. Sad.

Do yourself a favor and pick up Bill Hicks' records Relentless and Dangerous. You'll hear most of the routine Leary used on NCfC and then some. Two VERY funny records. Arizona Bay and Rant in E-Minor are great as well, but can be a little hard to get into 'cos of the musical interludes mixed in with the comedy. Apparently Bill wanted them that way, but I prefer just the standup talking... the material is great, though.

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

you ass, leary is making profit off theft. Thats the difference! he also claims it as his own unlike passing on jokes in the pub. I quote bill hicks to my friends and do not consider my self a theif, even when i don't credit it to him. No profit, just laughs.

reply

[deleted]

I was a bit to young to remember Bill Hicks, bt over the last year or so I have discovered him, and he was brilliant. As for Leary, I used to love his comedy, and still find him funny, but his routine hasn't aged that well with me. Does he rip off hicks?? Yes...but all art steals from the artists who came before him. It won't be long before someone comes along who is a carbon copy of Leary, doing Hicks, doing Pryor, doing Bruce.

Just as in Rock and Roll, there will always be someone who comes along doing Manson, doing ozzy. doing Cooper, doing Zappa.

reply

Oh Dear God , And a lot that is holy , i have not seen idiots dance around screaming so much *beep* ever since i looked at a " trantino-is-a-copy-cat " post.

I mean , come on , pepole . Comedy is bad as it is , so you know why go and ruin pepole who actully got you to laugh just for the appernt reason of " he stole from someone else " .

I mean , You Didn't enjoy his preformence? that is fine . however you said that you DO found him funny , so *beep* . I mean Can't you just love two pepole at the same time is that to much for you , i mean WHAT? are all of you rapers who want to be " keepin it real , playa' "?

Accept it or not , pepole steal . pepole steal and A LOT . i mean originallty died the same day that " greatness " was born . it's a normal human thing . he did it , it's funny , i can make room for improvment , why the *beep* shouldn't I?
And also , maybe denis and hicks did agree that he will use his jokes , you telling this like your'e *beep* mind readers . I mean compared to those other idiots on " comedy centreal " dennis is actully funny for long time and you don't forget his jokes after two seconds like about every person in the world .

Now god chose between dennis and hicks . dennis won , get over it .
And for the *beep* which doesn't understand anything at all about comedy.
Jokes are funny because the way you tell them , so preformence is important , because if your'e only funny on paper then...you aren't cut out to be a comedian but a writer.
And for *beep* number two . i am sure that then dennis wrote lnl they didn't each sit in diffrent rooms writing matrieal , i'm sure they did it togheter , you know , and helping ask for friends , is , my god , not that horrible .
and all of you who type like retartes , please write normally . i mean there a typo or a miss-spelling but you pepole are making my eyes bleed.

so dennis isn't original but he's funny . seperate things , pepole . separeta things.

reply

[deleted]

yeah, it's ok for somone to steal as long as these people like him, apparently. when people get on their soapbox that all artists rip each other off. that is such crap.

reply

I'd like to find who was responsible for the subtle addition of Hicks as "uncredited material" and buy them a beer... it's actually rather depressing that Leary profited from his material while Hicks remains relatively unknown (despite being critically acclaimed by most who have heard of him).

I'm pretty sure it frustrated Hicks, and IIRC, he said something along the lines of "I wanted to see if Dennis Leary did too" when asked why he quit smoking.

Hicks is a bloody hero, one of the most scathing and philosophical comedians ever, who was funny as hell.

RIP Bill

reply

[deleted]

OK, everyone whose heard of Bill Hicks, raise your hands.
Now, everyone who's heard of Denis Leary, raise your hands.

I THOUGHT SO!!!!!!





Naughty, Naughty Naughty! You filthy old soomka!

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

[deleted]

I used to be a huge Denis Leary fan, and I still like a good deal of his material (the stuff that he wrote on his own), but when a friend introduced me to Bill Hicks, who I had never even HEARD of, I immediately latched onto him and thought that he was probably the greatest comic I'd ever heard.

The tragedy here isn't necessarily that Denis Leary took some of the topics that Bill Hicks covered, altered them slightly, and recorded them. The tragedy is that Denis Leary is now a big star, and Bill Hicks is dead. In fact, not only is he dead, but he's also a relatively obscure name. The same people who love Denis have no idea who Bill Hicks was, and could care less, even though he blazed the trail for an entire generation of comics.

What makes it even worse is that when confronted with these allegations, Leary just makes ungrounded, baseless claims that Bill was jealous of him and began to spread rumors of plagiarism. Okay, if you want to deny such strong accusations, go ahead, but don't turn around and point the finger of blame at a dead man who can't speak on his own behalf. If you can really do that, you are a poor excuse for a human being, no matter how funny you are.

reply

[deleted]

Any real comedy fan who is familiar with Bill Hicks work and Leary's work knows that Leary is a complete no-talent rip off who STOLE from Hicks brilliant work. Has anyone noticed that Leary hasn't done anything funny since Hicks died????

reply

You may buy me a beer, then! :D

reply

It wasn't started by Rogan. Hicks used to make comments about it in the early 90's.
"I have a scoop for you. I stole his act. I camouflaged it with punchlines, and to really throw people off, I did it before he did." -Bill Hicks speaking about Dennis Leary stealing his material.

reply

[deleted]

Why would he not make a big deal out of a comedian blatantly stealing from another comedian? Thats what happened. So what if Rogan doesn't writes for his own show? He writes his own stand up. He pointed out that Ant didn't make up that joke on Last Comic Standing because Ant didnt make it up, so why would he be saying it in his stand up act on TV? Rogan had every right to say when people dont write jokes they pass of as their own.

"Childbirth is no more a miracle then eating food and a turd coming out of your ass."

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

[deleted]

Yes it is ...

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

[deleted]

Didn't Hicks have an HBO special in the early 90s?

If so, then I recall seeing him as a young man on that special. A few years later when I heard Leary I thought he was funny, but some of his schtick seemed familiar.

Honestly, now that I'm older and I've gone back and watched both Dennis Leary shows for the first time in 7 years, I find that No Cure for Cancer hasn't aged well and isn't as funny as it was 12 years ago. ALSO, (call me crazy) I think Lock and Load is funnier now. Crazy eh?

reply

[deleted]

" 'Ever notice that Dennis Leary never said another funny word of stand-up after Bill Hicks died?'

Ever notice that Denis Leary made Lock 'N Loaded after Hicks died? "


Yeah, like he said, after Hicks died, Leary never did anymore funny standup. (of course, that's just MY opinion...)

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

Leary stole Hicks' material, end of story.

reply

"Has any one heard lets see Martin Lawrence act, hmmm Eddie Murphys act hmmm Dave Chappelles act they all SOUND EXACTLY LIKE AND USE RICHARD PRYOR's matertial so go a bust there boards leave Leary alone, SO what if he used someones else stuff, you cant copyright jokes people there public domain, Hell you cant copyright anything if the person plagerising it is doing it onstage its just a small quirk of the law that leary uses to make the people in HIS audience laugh and thats all that matters if by stealing someone else stuff you make another person laugh WHAT THE HELL IS THE PROBLEM, What do you do when you go down to the pub to luagh and joke with you mates you tell the jokes that you heard on tv dont you, so just shut up, This is whats wrong with todays world NOTHING IS YOURS so just leave it alone"

GO BACK TO SLEEP AMERICA, HERE'S AMERICAN GLADIATORS

I hate to say it, but I think that for the most part, It went the only way it could go, anybody who listens to Bill and accepts many of his truths should realize that Bill would be about as well known now as he would have been regardless of Learys fame. He still definitely stole it on NO CURE, but I don't think it really would have affected Bills career.

reply