ROBIN EPISODE QUESTION
Can anybody tell me the episode and season Robin appeared? Was it the Dick/Jason/Tim Robin?
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That is up in the air, on another Static Shock he spoke to Bruce Wayne and asked "where is Robin?" to which Bruce Wayne said he was with the titans, meaning the Teen titans. It was never officialy which Robin it was, althought i think it was the Original Dick Grayson.
shareIt is Dick who's with the Titans. Batman lied to Static to keep his mind on the case. Watch Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker to find out what happens to Tim.
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your way off, that batman was set well into the future which is quite a while after ALL the rest that everyones mentioned here. and it dosnt really tie into the story anyway, very few of the cartoons keep any continuity or they try and avoid it by not using names, the whole time story from that film dosnt really tie in with 90percent of the batman background stories, and there are quite a few. just like jason, and jason was the best because he becomes the red hood.... but in another backgroud the joker is the red hood, thats how here starts out, and that story was also used in the batman brave and the bold cartoon, but they went with the joker being a good guy crime fighter called the red hood in an alternate univerese, also bring that into the injustice syndicate story, theres alot of mixing and crossovers going on, its always a nice touch but i would a series that kept continuity
shareit was dick grayson as robin that was with the teen titans, in a teen titans episode where starfire accidently goes 20 years into the future, she reunites with robin who is now known as nightwing... in case you don't know who nightwing is...THAT'S DICK GRAYSON: THE ORIGINAL ROBIN, THE ROBIN THAT JOINED THE TEEN TITANS...
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Notice how impossible this is, seeing as Robin was turned insane by the Joker shortly after he tried to establish himself with Nightwing. He was hospitalized for his mental illness through his whole life. Doesn't make sense. Source: Batman Beyond the Movie.
Yes. That should be Tim Drake. Why Tim Drake? It's because when Robin stops one robber or thug, that thug asked him this very powerful question. "Aren't you with the Batman?!!" to which Robin replies maybe "Not anymore". I forgot what he said but I'm sure he is Tim Drake. Because Dick Grayson didn't leave Batman until he became slightly almost an adult and into Nightwing.
About the 4 other main Teen Titans... they are the younger versions of the original Titans. Or I should say that Robots don't age greatly like Cyborg does. In the future, we see Cyborg still the same only feeling very tired. Raven aged and is in White but she is not the Raven we know in the Comics before this series started. Beast Boy is no adult in the future. Just that he didn't exercise so much that he have insomnia and can't sleep having less hair. Robin/Tim Drake became Nightwing like Dick Grayson himself. This Nightwing is more of a teenage voice than an adult voice so it should be Tim Drake. Starfire is unknown but I'm sure she is out there somewhere no matter what the Teens in the future said.
So the Robin who was with Batman is the 3rd Robin who changed the costume into Green instead of Red. This episode of Static tells the reason how Robin/Tim Drake left the Dark Knight and be with the Titans. But still though... maybe the WB wanted something new? Like making Dick Grayson leave Batman so early to join the Teen Titans which should be more reasonable? And again... was Dick Grayson wearing a Red Robin Costume when he first joined Batman and he was that young? And for Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker shows that Timothy "Tim" Drake is some sort of scientist and looks kind of old. That means that in the future Tim Drake eventually become this guy after retiring from Teen Titans or is that really Dick Grayson instead of Tim Drake in the Teen Titans series?
To me, it doesn't matter though. As long as there is a show, we should stick to the story without having any Brainstorming.
The teen titans cartoons is set in a different universe. The producers wanted to separate this series from the batman/superman series' universe so that the show would focus on the kid superheroes actually being noticed as heroes and not just sidekicks to the main superheroes. Everything Keyblade said is true. In the comics, both Dick and Tim join the titans, But I don't think they were on the team at the same time.
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You are correct Teen Titans is not set in the DCAU it's in continuity with "The Batman". Also the Robin in the CN Teen Titans show is Dick Grayson.
As for the comment made in this show it was about Tim Drake being with the Titans.
I'm almost positive that the Robin in Teen Titans is Tim Drake. I used to have a video called Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu for my PS2. Both Grayson(Nightwing) and Tim Drake(Robin) were in that game. In the game, Tim Drake was voiced by Scott Mennile, who also does the voice of Robin in the Teen Titans show. Also, I might be wrong but wasn't Dick Grayson like almost 20 when he became Robin? Tim Drake was much younger and the Robin in Teen Titans also seems young.
shareNo, he was 20 when he appears on the show. The inference is that he's been around a lot longer.
Yes, Teen Titans is in a different universe, but I feel it fits very nicely into TAS continuity between the flashbacks in Robin's Reckoning (second season 2-part ep) and current (at the time) day. It wouldn't be the first time Robin left Gotham to have other adventures, though that mostly happened in the comic. The reason why there is so much reference to Dick in Teen Titans is because that was who Glen Marakami was thinking of when he was working on the show. He's quoted saying so *on the show's site*. But, still, it's supposed to be a different universe.
As such, the Robin they're talking about in Static Shock cannot be Tim. Not only that, but it aired concurrently with the New Adventures of Batman and Robin. Something happened to Tim and Batman didn't want to get into it, so he lied. Not only that, but think about what Static's reaction would have been. Not cool. Again, watch Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. Batman Beyond is in the same universe. Teen Titans is not.
Grayson was about 18 when he was on Batman: TAS but was about 9 when he first started.
Teen Titans doesn't fit in anywhere in DCAU continuity. There is also a Teen Titans Go! comic that says Robin's family, the flying Graysons, died in a accident and he misses them. So the Teen Titans Robin is Dick Grayson. The some Dick Grayson that appears on "The Batman". One episode of "The Batman" had Batman and Robin team up with Green Arrow. And if you remember when Robin first met Speedy he told Speedy he has heard of him. Also Nightwing in the Batman has the same hairstyle was Robin on Teen Titans.
Therefore the Robin in this show is Tim Drake.
I know it's a different universe. Reread the post. I stated as much. But considering what's supposed to happen to Robin, Batman made up a plausible lie so that Static has his mind on his case, not on his friend's well-being.
I'm going to correct myself. Yes, Robin we speak of is Tim (I don't know where my brain was, I guess I was thinking about the Robin in TT, though I'm sure some version of the Titans are somewhere). I'm simply pointing out that after a very nasty incident (again, see Return of the Joker), he's no longer Robin. Static doesn't know, and Batman doesn't want to take the time to explain, so he lies to Static.
Tim wasn't in the Titans.
I said Batman lied and said he was.
So Static would focus on what they were doing and not on Robin.
Are we straight on what I'm saying now? I hope so.
I'd like to point out somehting, having just rewatched all the cross over episodes.
The Robin that appears in Static Shock is the Tim Drake robin, Static shocks continuity seems to take place after superman and during justice league.
Dick Grayson is currently nightwing, and Tim Drake is Robin
that much is clear.
Tim Drake however is also part of the Teen Titans. This Tenn Titans is not the same as the animated program. Their team exists only in references within Static Shock as well as allusions in later Justice League Unlimited episodes.
Someone pointed out when Batman told Static that Robin was in the Titans, it was after the whole joker fiasco and he was retired.
This is not the case because the episode in which batman says that was the Season 3 opener. And Tim drake's robin later appears in the Season 4 opener Future shock, in which Static goes to the future. There the future batman references how Tim Drake is a civilian now, making allusions to what happened to robin.
So my theory is that there is a Teen Titans in the same universe as Batman, Superman, Justice League, JLU, Static Shock, and Batman Beyond. They are just never seen.
Feel free to argue if you wish, i dont check these boards often enough to know.
I agree with mostly everything you said and I just would like to add something.
According to Dwayne McDuffie Batman told Static Robin was with the Titans because they were originally (Key word:ORIGINALLY ) going to crossover with Teen Titans. They even got Scott Menville to voice the DCAU Tim Drake Robin in the video game "Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu". However since the episode would have aired before the Teen Titans premire they didn't use them and someone at the network sugessted using the Justice League instead. And as you know they ended up using the Justice League.
Teen Titans remained ambigous with continuity in Season 1 and since they didn't crossover with "Static Shock" they did not have to make that version connected to the DCAU. This is what Titans producer Glen Murakami wanted all along. And ever since Season 2 they have been throwing hints at us that the Titans Robin is Dick Grayson. Just look at the first episode of Season 2 they come right out and say that in the future this Robin will become Nightwing.
Therefore the Cartoon Network Teen Titans has nothing to do with the DCAU but The Batman is a prequel to Teen Titans.
"Their team exists only in references within Static Shock as well as allusions in later Justice League Unlimited episodes."
We know there is a DCAU Teen Titans team with Tim Drake as a member because they are referenced in "Static Shock" but I never heard anything in JLU that talks about Robin or the Titans.
Also who do you think are the members of the DCAU Titans? I think some of the chcaracters in the Justice League pilot are members.
Robin (Tim Drake)
Impulse/Kid Flash (Bart Allen)
Steel (Natasha Irons)
Miss Martian (M'gann M'orzz / Megan Morse)
Wonder Girl (Casandra Sandsmark)
Superboy (Con-El / Conner Kent)
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Season two, and I think it's episode 14 of the whole series (and quite possibly the first episode of the second season). The episode is called "The Big Leagues".
It's Tim Drake. That much should be clear from the fact that it's crossed over with The New Batman Adventures which is constantly referring to the fact that it is A NEW ROBIN. While it is VAGUELY, VAGUELY (and bizarrely) possible that it might be Jason Todd [I only say this because I've never seen The New Batman Adventures, although I've heard more than my fair share (hence knowing it's a new robin)], but it's highly unlikely. DC pretty much threw Jason Todd away, he was only seen in the comics for a short while -- insofar as I know, he was never a cartoon character. The most likely is that it IS Tim Drake, and, according to cannon, Drake ALSO joined the Teen Titans, although he joined the west coast chapter, which might explain Batman saying that Robin is with the Titans during the Future Shock episode.
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It is easy enough to prove; you can tell by Batman & Robin's costumes in the episode. Obviously, the story takes place before the events of Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.
Since it has now been established that the Teen Titans that aired on Cartoon Network are not in the same reality as Batman: The Animated Series, Static Shock[/i] and Justice League/JLU, we can assume that the DCAU had its own Teen Titans team, probably founded by the first Robin (Dick Grayson), Speedy (Roy Harper) and--if they exist in the DCAU--Wonder Girl, Aqualad and Kid Flash. Although, since the animated Justice League team came into existance so late then maybe this Teen Titans did also. It could have been founded by Tim and a second generation of teen sidekicks. For that matter, the DCAU Donna (Wonder Girl) Troy could be Tim's age since this Wonder Woman is still new to Man's World.
"I'm willing to put my life on the line to do what I have to. But it has to be mine, no one else's." - Batman: Gotham Knight
There is definatly a team of Titans in the DCAU. Robin/Tim Drake (via references in "Hard as Nails" & "Romeo in the Mix") and Miss Martian (via a reference in "Rome in the Mix") are confirmed members. The other members should also be from the Geoff Johns era as well.
I would really like to see a DCAU version of the Titans that's why I think a DTV movie where Static meets the Titans should be made. They could call it "The Static/Titans Movie". Now that would be awesome!