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Did the smaller camps focus on torture?


Governor Walz mentioned Holocaust Remembrance Day on Twitter recently and I started watching "Five Came Back: The Reference Films" on Netflix. This documentary ("Nazi Concentration Camps") seems to start with the smaller camps like Penig, Breendonck and Hadamar. I was horrified by the descriptions of tortures endured, like beating and scraping the back of men with rods wrapped in barbed wire or binding people with chains and then twisting them tighter and tighter with a tourniquet technique. I've never heard of these in reference to Dachau or Auschwitz. Would it be accurate to say the smaller campus focused on torturing people to death whereas the larger camps focused on killing as many people as possible?

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No, it wouldn't be accurate. There is a wall in Washington D.C. that lists the name of every soldier who died in Vietnam. Where's the wall of every holocaust victim that was tortured and killed in WWII? Lots of names of survivors tho. All with a story to tell.

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My best answer would be it depended a lot on who was in charge of the camp. Himmler would assign the commanders, he obviously would assign sociopaths who would get the job done.. especially in the 6 major extermination camps. For example, the commander of Auschwitz expressly forbade torture, he just wanted to trick the victims into the underground dressing rooms. From there the guards would usher them into the next room, the guards had guns and night sticks so the victims wouldn't fight back much.
One very sad thing I read recently was when the Auschwitz commander gave the order to murder 40,000 women in just 2 or 3 days. There were about 50 trucks, with approx 80 women in each..they'd be dumped off right next to the huge gas chamber/crematoriums(named Auschwitz 1, Auschwitz 2, etc). The women were already so weak and delirious from massive malnutrition, fatigue, disease they simply walked or crawled the few steps down to the dressing room and a few minutes later they were gassed and shortly after cremated. Their ashes dumped in a nearby river.

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How long and how much energy does it take to cremate 40,000 bodies? 2 or 3 days huh? Sounds believable. It takes almost 3 hours a body, so they must have had skyscrapers of ovens that were air bombed huh? All those pounds of ash. 4 or 5 per person. No way that much wouldnt literally form a dam in that river.

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It took 5 days minimum. But your holocaust denial is abhorrent.

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Oh 5 days? So over 600 cremation ovens. Math definitely checks out.

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It was only a few years ago that I learned that the heaps of emaciated corpses in the photos we are all familiar with had died unintentionally of typhus rather than deliberate murder. I had always been led to believe that those unfortunate people had been executed.

In light of this, I don't think there is anything wrong with asking for clarification of facts that one sees logical flaws in.

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Geez, I wonder what will happen when you keep 1000's of people with 4 people per wooden "bed" with no mattress, stacked in 4 high bunks without heating or hygiene and with deliberate malnourishment and let them do hard manual labor for 16 hours a day without adequate clothing?

Must be natural deaths, surely..

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It depends on the camp. Mauthausen, where my father's family was sent, started focusing on granite mining and the torture was a part of the process to keep the prisoners under control. My mother's family was put in the Ghetto in Vienna and eventually sent off to Aushwitz for the final solution.

Torture was used moreso to keep prisoners under control. This is why the Russian and N. Koreans followed in suit with their prisoners.

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