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Anyone else feel bad for the Architect?


Despite all his respectable offers Martha politely rejected them and yet still asked favors of him. What was his role in this exactly? The neighbor that just looks after the vexing urchin child?

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Sort of. I think they also used him so you would be sidetracked and think she'd finally go out with him, instead of having her end up with Mario. A love triangle sort of thing.

Just my thoughts.


I asked you not to tell me that!

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Yes, it was a bit of a love triangle, although Martha had little love for him once he declined his initial offer. Once they introduced Mario, though, I knew Martha would wind up with him because there was such tension initially.

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Its sounds like the movie "Its Compicated" with Steve Martin. He plays a single architect who builds Meryl Streep's dream kitchen where she can test recipes for her bakery. They start to date but then her remarried ex Alec Baldwin shows up.

Baldwin keeps her so busy cooking for him and banging her that she lies to Steve Martin while still accepting favors.

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Is "It's Complicated" worth seeking out? I intended to watch it when it was released, but it slipped through the cracks and I sort of forgot about it. The cast is certainly appealing.

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European films -- or rather, screenwriters and directors -- don't really think that way. Your formulation is more like an American writer and/or director would think (that there must be a plot-oriented reason for this to happen, so what is it?). Roger Ebert used to say Eurofilms tended to be about people, while American films tended to be about plot and plot points. It's a generalization, but an accurate one much of the time. In real life, stuff like this happens all the time. This guy is interested in her, she's not interested in him. That's how it goes. But if you see the guy at the same age, and he's a neighbor, and he appears at a certain point in the film and talks to her, why...of course they're "setting something up." It's actually antirealistic.

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Why would you feel sorry for him? Was she obligated to assent to his respectable offers? Did she force him to do favors? All he had to do was say no.

His role in this, I guess, was to be a human being who would do something decent for somebody (taking care of a neighbor's child once in a while) without thinking anything ought to be coming back in return.

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