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Giovanni really speak Italian?


Does anyone know if Giovanni Ribsi really speaks Italian? I don't speak it, but it sounded pretty good.

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But he's not Italian.

I read somewhere that his parents liked Italian names. Tey named him purley on that. Not because he's italian. He was born in NY I believe. So I don't know if he really speaks italian.

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Yeah, he was born in California. He might be of Italian descent, but that doesn't mean he speaks Italian. I have a buddy named Victorio Piva and he's a whitey from Idaho.

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See the trivia section for the film listing on iMDB
Trivia for Heaven (2002)
Both Giovanni Ribisi and Cate Blanchett speak fluent Italian throughout most of the film.

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Yes, it does say that, but that does not mean that the people are necessarily native speakers, are able to speak the language fluently, or even know the language.

For instance, I'm fluent French, but I have a German accent, and it's not my native language.

In other films, people speak bits of foreign languages just going by sound (Nicole Kidman did all her own Russian in Birthday Girl, just learning it by sound, she doesn't speak Russian as far as I know)

I think both of the actors did their own Italian voice parts in the movie, but it would be interesting to know if Ribisi can speak Italian, either because he learnt it at some point, or because it is his mother tongue.

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This is a pretty common practice. I know, for instance, that when Desperado was filmed, Antonio Banderas did not yet speak enough English for the part, so simply learned the lines phonetically. Obviously, he has become fluent in the years since then...

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There are these things called schools. More than a few of them teach foreign languages. Even Italian.

Whether Ribisi learned to speak Italian from birth or not, he apparently learned enough somewhere to pass a Native Italian in this movie.

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nataliejensen just in case ur dumbass didnt already know this italy is in europe and europeans are traditionally white/caucasian. there are people with nordic- blonde blueeyed fair skin in italy just like there are people with black hair and brown eyes and more of a tan in countries like sweden and norway, thought its not all that common.

for example: arnold schwarzenneger(?) is extremely tanned, does that automatically make him a mexican? no obviously coz hes austrian and austria is in europe. nothin pisses me off like stupid people not knowing stuff about their own heritage, and as a white person you should know all europes history not just your homelands. blacks, browns asians muslims they all act that way so please, grow a brain

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Actually I've read that he's part Italian, part German, and part Irish... Just saying...

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It seems that all the posts in this thread assume that there is a standard Italian, ignoring the fact that in ordinary situations most Italians speak in regional accents. The spelling and pronunciation of words can differ in the space of a few kilometers. I would assume that the producers might have provided an instructor to coach the non-Italians of the cast in the accent spoken in Torino where the film is set.

There is a saying that the ideal Italian is “Lingua toscana in boca romana”—literally, a Tuscan tongue in a Roman mouth, or the dialect of Tuscany as spoken by Romans, but I heard a Genoese man say, “I hate Rome. Down there they pronounce it with three R’s.” Romans can also be heard substituting R for L. I’m just satisfied that Ribisi’s Italian was convincing enough for cinematic purposes. I’m more interested in the significance of the silver filigree on his Carabiniere uniform collar.

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Just to throw my two cents in here, I'm a German who LOVES LOVES LOVES Italian and I used to speak it rather fluently (and with a good accent, according to some), and I thought both of their accents were pretty impressive, especially considering that it is very very rare for a native English speaker to produce a good Italian accent (or any other, for that matter, native English speaker do not seem to be very gifted for foreign languages!!)
So kudos to them.

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I am italian and when i watch the movie i dont understand all the things that Giovanni and Kate spok. Is the same thing with Al Pacino in "The Godfather", when he goes to sicily. All these people have someone who learn the pronounciation of the words, but we can see that they dont understna what they says. if the accent of the Blanchet was accectable (her caracter comes from England) that of Ribisi was not so good. I mean, i loved this movie and i apprecciated much the playing, but sometimes i have ome difficulty to follow the story in italian.

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Giovanni's father is Italian, he wasn't named Antonio Giovanni because they just liked Italian names (to whoever said mentioned that), Giovanni has Italian blood. Judging from the mvoie his accent isn't native of course, but it's pretty damn good. I was impressed, he probably grew up speaking Italian, who knows.

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He is speaking true Italian.

I can tell. I am of Italian, French and Croatian descent (Historically speaking), and the Italian that Giovanni Ribisi is speaking is truly genuine.

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Sorry but Giovanni does NOT speak a believable Italian, the more if compared with other REAL Italians speaking in the film (i.e. his father).
To the Italian audience Giovanni's accent/pronounciation may have sounded like... an immigrant from the East. Maybe Polish which would have linked him to Kieslowsky, but this is completely out of topic... ;-)))

Anyway, that's why he has been dubbed (by GABRIELE PARRILLO) for the Italian release, while Cate's dialogue has been obviously kept original, since she is meant to be English (to be honest, ironically her Italian had a German accent: when she called to allert about the bomb at the beginning, I was convinced she was a German terrorist...!!))

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All charachters in this movie are played by real Italians, except Ribisi, Blanchett and the pharmacist at the beginning. While Blanchett's English accent is really really strong, making sometimes difficult to understand her lines in Italian, Ribisi's Italian was good (not that good to fool a mothertongue like myself, but pretty good). The pharmacist was something in between :)

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Thank you for clearing that up, masapi. That makes sense that his lines got dubbed for the Italian release. Even if his accent was lacking, I thought his delivery was very good, which would have made it easier to dub over. According to one of the featurettes, Ribisi campaigned for the role pretty hard, which implies he was not thought of originally for the part as he's American.

Just wondering, how convincing was his ESL English accent? Looks like he was using it 24/7 as he was using it during the interview.

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Wow, you definitely have the qualifacations of "expert".

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Just a quick question, is there more english spoken in this movie or italian?
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and just so everyone knows Cate Blanchett is Australian, so even her English accent was not real.

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Just to answer the language question once and for all.

This movie is in ITALIAN. With some Aussie Brit thrown in here and there. And some very well pronounced Italian. And some English. But mostly Italian.

I doubt Mr. Ribisi speaks native Italian. He spoke too clearly and well. It did not sound like daily Italian.

Once the cinematography kicks in, just watch it and ignore the sound. Beautiful job there. The subtitles really detracted from the cinematography although there were scenes with no dialogue. They were excellent.

Do not watch this if you like action movies or gore. You're in the wrong place.

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I had never heard of Giovanni before, so I assumed he was Italian like the rest of the cast. His Italian accent is pretty good, but I could tell he is not a native speaker, that's why I decided to look it up. If he was born in the US, it makes sense.
Cate Blanchett's Italian is perfect as grammar goes, but of course she has a very strong foreiign accent.

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