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Things I learned from Heaven


1. If your husband dies from an overdose of drugs supplied by a rich, powerful man, and the police won’t listen to you, go ahead and plant a bomb in his office. Make sure you give the police your real name, because spending the rest of your life in prison mourning your husband is much better than carrying on with your life.

2. If you’re going to plant a bomb in someone’s office, put it somewhere like the trash. I mean, there’s no chance the trash is going anywhere.

3. There’s no water in Italian toilets.

4. Always use a pre-pubescent boy to pretend to be a secretary calling someone with professional information. Little boys sound just like grown-ups—everybody knows that.

5. If you’re being interrogated for killing four innocent people, chances are one of the interrogators will fall in love with you and help you escape.

6. If you’re in love with a terrorist and want to help her escape, slip her a tape recorder with a message on it, rather than a note. Paper makes so much more noise.

7. Junior-grade policemen in Italy know how to fly helicopters.

8. Shaving your head makes you unrecognizable during a national manhunt.

9. When you’re on the lam, make sure you go to the one friend they know you have. It helps to involve an innocent family in your stupid bull$hit.

10. A mid-sized police detail will always miss when firing with automatic weapons on a helicopter flying straight up in the air.

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12. (Almost turned it off before it started because of this...) Trash collection in Italy is always done in the middle of the day. Makes it easier to interrupt meetings, avoid cleaning floors, handy for picking up bombs and such.

13. In Italy, janitorial stuff always works to the mid-section of the floor, then decides to go down the elevator, but not the staff elevator, the scenic one, because it's pretty.

14. In Italy, people, especially with two children seeing the sights, have absolutely no compunction about letting their sight-seeing elevator get crowded with a lady pushing trash with mops pointing out like machine guns.

15. In Italy (apparently), trash cans are never in a utilitarian location. They are always just next to a doorway so that people can trip over them going out the door. No need to have it next to a desk, behind a desk, in a corner. Put it someplace where it can be inconspicuously reached from the adjoining office (which may not have its own trash can).

16, In Italy (and this may be a stretch), no working stiff notices that an almost empty trash can has something heavy in it and takes a look just in case it can be sold to help supplement a meager income from maintenance management.

This all happened in under two minutes in the first ten minutes of the film. It should have been enough to make me say, "Aw, get real. Ya couldn't do better than that to set up the movie's jumping-off action?" But it had Cate Blanchett and that was enough to stick around for the more plausible remainder of the film.

[By the way, on previous #3 - "There's no water in Italian toilets": that could be true. Low-volume toilets may use the force of water to evacuate them instead of starting with a gallon or two of standing water like North American toilets.]

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Eyew. Thanks, but eyew.

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Less eyew. What I forgot to say is that they may have only a pint or two in the bottom instead of a gallon or two!

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Hi Yinky,

You obviously must have missed the scene at the very beginning where Giovanni Ribisi was getting prepared for his pilot license.
The water leven in European countries inside toilets is not nearly as high as it is over here in the US. Usually the water level is there where it flows into the big pipe.
So in case a package is wide enough to stick at the top of the toilet bowl, it won't get wet.
Regarding # 4: there are child prodigies out there :).

For everybody who still wants to enjoy this movie, please stop reading here.



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But the one thing that seemed a plot hole to me was HOW did the police know/guessed that the two fugitives have been hiding at Cate Blanchett's best friend's barn?
Did somebody recognize Ribisi? After all it was his home town.
Or did somebody witness Blanchett and her best female friend talking?
Or did Blanchett's best friend call the police and that's why they showed up with lots of cars, a helicopter and a SWAT team?
Or did the police do this on a daily basis regardless if there were rumors about sightings of Ribisi & Blanchett or not?

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I believe I did miss some of the beginning, I caught it on cable.

I always thought that the cops figured out that she'd go to her friend's house.

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17. Purevegetarianman has written in numerous places on the boards for this movie how unbelievably angry he is that the dog turd murderer of 4 innocent people (2 of which were..... Gasp.... CHILDREN!) doesn't pay for her crime.

18. Vegeboy has a) failed to realize this was NOT an actual event he was seeing on the news or b) his whole family was wiped out by a woman avenging her husband's overdose death (and kids at the school) when the bombing plan went horribly awry, and she got away, and he understandably takes this fictional story very personally

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19. When you're mad as hell and you ain't gonna take it anymore so you plan to kill a guy and feel so good about it that you're going to call the police to tell them exactly what you did and why, then you learn how to make a bomb that is big enough to kill just him but probably somebody in the next room, go thru whatever hoops you have to go thru to get the materials for a bomb, construct the bomb without blowing your fingers off in the process like al qaida bomb builders sometimes do, make a haphazard plan to drop it in his wastebasket where he or his assistant could see you blowing your whole plan before it works out and if it does work out, go down to a phone and call his assistant about her car alarm as a ruse to get her safely out of the possible blast area and hope she didn't get a ride or take the train that day or even have an alarm on her car, call the police before having any idea what happened or who was killed to defiantly confess your guilt and go home and go to sleep and not watch any news reports to wait for the cops. But do NOT get a gun (or knife, hammer, machete, samurai sword or whatever if guns are THAT hard to get in Europe) and walk up, tell the assistant to go 'cause you're gonna get your revenge kill on, and kill the guy you want dead quite simply and safely (for bystanders) since you plan on tellin the cops ANYWAY.

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19. supplemental

Exactly! She already was VERY willing to identify herself by full name before the bomb even detonated. So if anonymity is off the table, why not just walk into the office and shoot her target at point blank? This would better guarantee there were no innocent victims, as it was understandably of significant importance to her.



A teacher that was triggered into a bomb-maker and terrorist because her husband overdosed is just not realistic; her plans and reactions were that of someone with intellectual and emotional disabilities.

IMO:
Decent cinematography? Sure.
Total crap film? Absolutely!



"Don't get chumpatized!" - The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters (2007)

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20. That a cop, who is the son of a cop, will, upon seeing a murderer of four innocent people, who may even be a terrorist, faint, will then fall "in love" and toss away his entire career, freedom, and life.

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