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why is Richelieu always so demonised?


I hate to burst anyones bubble here but the real Cardinal Richelieu bore no resemblance to how he is depicted in Dumas' work and the countless films derived from it. He was actually a very effective administrator of France and as pretty much the worlds first Prime Minister demonstrated a shrewdness and prudence that helped France grow strong as a nation. Not only did he help centralise French power, adding cohesion to the French nation-state, he also helped curtail the power of the Habsburg empire and though a Catholic himself promoted religious tolerance in order to create political unity. He also removed much of the Feudal power possessed by a number of the Nobility in order to decrease the risk of factional rebellion by the Barons. His greatest success though was as a War commander, with Victory at La Rochelle against Britain being a particular highlight. He was also a keen patron of the arts and education, setting up the Academie Francais and rebuilding the Sorbonne.

His negative reputation is perhaps because of the brutal and heavy tax levies he placed upon the Third Estate (though in fairness not any worse than any other ruler at the time), but he was certainly no traitor and the view he was derives almost entirely from Dumas who,as a post revolutionary thinker, turned Richelieu into a bogeyman for the First Estate, symbolic of the excess and corruption of the Ancien Regime. While the Ancien Regime was repressive, sadistic and corrupt, it is actually quite unfair that Richelieu was picked over Louis XIII, or his successor Cardinal Mazarin, as he was probably one the most progressive of the pre-1789 chief ministers; the best of a bad bunch so to speak.

In terms of his fate, Richelieu was not pushed into a lake or placed on trial for treason or anything rediculous like that as the movies show, but merely fell sick and died at home in his bed. His last words were to the King, to whom he said: "I have the consolation of leaving your kingdom in the highest degree of glory and of reputation.", and in many ways it was he that laid the foundations for what was arguably the greatest pre-revolutionary period, that of the Sun King Louis XIV.

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...and which sounds more exciting and entertaining? THAT, or Tim Curry being evil supervillain?

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lol. i guess you have a point. I just like my history served accurate.

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errr, have you read the books? Richelieu is far from demonised - ok, so he is the opposition, but he's still recognised as a leader of france (and, indeed, a patriot). He is shown to be shrewd, clever, and a brilliant leader, ahead of a clearly infantile and unready king. Now, the books are about the *King's* musketeers - unsurprisingly, their primary loyalty was to the king - Richelieu's was to France. Everything Ricelieu does is primarily designed to undermine the Queen - Anne of Austria, whose brother was the Spanish King. and who were the two most significant threats France faced at the time? Austria and Spain.

In 20 years after, all of the characters are constantly referring to Richelieu as the Great Cardinal, and making defamatory remarks comparing Mazarin to him - the heroes of the stories show great respect for Richelieu, and D'Artagnan owes him his commission in the musketeers.

And you are somewhat overstating Richelieu's military success - although he did govern France through some of it's greatest victories, and established it as a great military power within europe, he was far from being a general - he didn't personally lead troops, or even direct battles. He left that to the Marshals of France (which is presumably why he won so much, when compared with other Political leaders who interfered with military endeavours, like Buckingham, Churchill, etc.).

Personally i would dearly love to see a really good modern production of the Musketeers, where Richelieu isn't turned into some inhuman monster (like in the disney [shudders] movie), where Rochefort is shown to be ruthless and coarse, but far from evil - there is only one person in Musketeers who is meant to be evil, and that's Milady. and, consequantly, there is only one evil character in 20 years after, and that is her son.

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its the same thing in the japanese culture and oda nobunaga. the man succeeded in bringing peace to japan and yes he was shrewd, calculating but you know what? sometimes you have to walk both sides of the fence to get what you need.

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