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why was this film banned in China?


Does anyone know?

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because the villages were forced to hold the prisoners by the communist army. In that time, three major powers were in China: Japan, the republicans of China and the communist of China. The innocent villages were drag into these mess(war) by the soldiers of the the communist army and therefore it (the communist party) is responsible for the eventually masscre-->

these is the ultimate truth behind every war: no matter for what causes, countries are fighting against each other, in most cases innocent citizens who don't care about the causes will find the death!!!!

But you know, that there is a unwritten rule in the society of modern China, the communist can't be blame for anything...(especially using citizens to win the WOII) so that is why it is banned.

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The army that forced the villiagers to hold the persioners are not Communism, in the end of the film, you can clearly see the KMT flag.

Also, the Morzer(spelling?) pistol were mainly used by KMT forces, because they used to receive large supports by the Nazi Germans.

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Mauser. Specifically a Mauser C96, if I'm remembering the film correctly. (Just rewatched that bit. It looks more like the Spanish Astra 902, several thousands of which were produced for export to China, as it has a large, fixed magazine that was not found on the otherwise similar C96.)

Though the use of the pistol doesn't really mean much, as the basic C96 design itself was widely copied within China during the '20s, '30s, and '40s. As such, its ready availability meant it saw heavy use among forces of Nationalists, Communists, and warlords during those decades.

The scenes at the end also don't mean much with regards to the identity of the person at the start. While the officer present in them is certainly a Nationalist soldier -- the American soldiers accompanying him are a good hint there -- the exact identity of the person who drops off the prisoners is not necessarily connected: after all, no one seems to have any knowledge of him. The only people who even seemed to know he existed are the villagers and the prisoners. As such, we are left with no concrete proof as to the man's real identity.

(In fact, there's an argument to be made that to the viewer, unlike the villagers, knowledge of the person's identity would actually be detrimental. All that's important about him from a plot perspective is that he's fighting against the Japanese and doing so in secret. Any information about who precisely he's working for or associated with brings the politics of the civil war into segments of the film that have nothing to do with that.)

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The army that forced the villiagers to hold the persioners are not Communism, in the end of the film, you can clearly see the KMT flag.

Also, the Morzer(spelling?) pistol were mainly used by KMT forces, because they used to receive large supports by the Nazi Germans.

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you need to watch it again and again to understand why it was banned.

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I'm Chinese.
In China, people say the reason is that the film does not show any good things done by the CPC, and evil things done by the Japanese intruders.
The film regulators are too conservative to release such movies.

However, we are free to buy the film DVD anywhere ;)

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"the film does not show...evil things done by the Japanese intruders."

Well that's preposterous. They murdered the villagers at the end, exposing the true colors of the Japanese army.

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IIRC the PRC government was pissed off because Jiang entered the Cannes Film Festival without their consent, which is a ridiculous reason to ban the movie.

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That wasn't the only reason.
The Japanese prisoners were not evil monsters.
They were shown as human beings - which for the communist party, is not OK when depicting that period of time. In the Communist Party censors' minds, the Japanese must all be vicious and evil, for symbolic reasons.
Of course, that just shows the insecurity if the Communist Party.
But that's also very much the nature of all conservative governments - be they communists in China, or the extreme right wing republican party of America and Putin in Russia(both of whom now resemble, more than any of their allies' other political parties, the U.K's BNP).

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I think the movie is banned in China not because the content,but the Chinese audiences. Most Chinese people have a common anti-Japanese feeling,I think they couldn't handle the fact that the Jap murderers (especially the jap prisoner)not ony get away with it,but also execute Ma da san in the end.
BTW,I can't figure out why did Jiang wen want his movie to end like this,apparently letting a POW execute another prisoner is not quite possible.

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To add to what has already been discussed...I was told the reason why the movie was banned in China was because it did not portray the Japanese military as being bad enough. This explanation was from one of my ESL students here in northeastern China, who has seen the film. This explanation makes sense to me as there is deep seated resentment towards Japan stemming from WW2. Additionally, most of the movies made in China dealing with that period of time either portray the Japanese as being incredibly evil (henceforth setting up the Chinese soldiers as being super-heroic) or the Japanese to be complete idiots. While I personally considered Wen Jiang's screenplay to be very condemning of the Japanese, obviously the Chinese government did not agree.

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Reason 1. The Chinese villagers were portrayed very naivee and even stupid, no sense of resistance until when they had no choice. This is very different from early anti-Japanese movies.
Reason 2. It could stimulate the Chinese nationalism within China. The movie reveals the very evil side of the Japanese army in the end of the movie together with the powerlessness of Chinese people. Too striking that it could stimulate the existing Chinese-Japan conflicts. As the director and actor Jiang Wen said he wants to make a movie really shows the truth of anti-Japanese war and he did it. Right now even though China and Japane still have conflicts, too much nationalism toward Japanese will do no good to Chinese government.

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Very simple. Because the Chinese military is potrayed as the bad guys while the Japanese invaders are portrayed as the good guys.

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"the Japanese invaders are portrayed as the good guys."

Hardly good guys- they slaughter everyone in a village because a soldier was kidnapped. Charming psychopaths, perhaps.
The portrayal of the Chinese characters- not entirely dedicated to the glory of the motherland and willing to try tomake deals with the occupiers- was enough to annoy the government.

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No they weren't and no they weren't.
The problem for Communist Party was simple - the differences between the tw nationalities were not stark enough. The Japanese were not evil enough, the Chinese were not good and pure enough.
You simply can't have seen the film.

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Are you sure you saw the right movie?

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There is indeed nothing controversial in China about anti Japanese sentiment. In fact it is still fostered to some extent by the Party. To show too much sympathy for the Japanese, even in this day and age, could be construed as unpatriotic.

As opposed to a shallow blockbuster like "Nanjing! Nanjing!" (which merely shows brave Chinese soldiers heroically fighting an impossibly evil Japanese oppressor, and where the only 'good' Jap commits suicide) however, this film makes a mockery of Chinese resistance and its immoral message would be considered dubious as best by Communist ideological standards.

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I think I read that when the so called Chinese volunteers entered the Korean War, many who were captured or surrendered were found to be Japanese WWII soldiers or Chinese Nationalists forced into the Communist army. They had been stranded with nowhere to go.

They and the others were used as cannon fodder like Japanese WWII Banzai attacks.



I don't know everything. Neither does anyone else

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https://chinacopyrightandmedia.wordpress.com/2012/10/17/devils-on-the-doorstep-an-interesting-look-into-film-censorship/

Here's the answer in extreme details.I feel pretty bad for Chinese film makers and directors after reading it.It's almost impossible to make any good movies under such censorship.

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