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Why not just destroy the damned thing??


First off, I would like to say that this movie is really, really bad. The script was just awful, the special effects were bad etc. I only liked the "Stiffmeister" because I loved him in all three American Pies. But I digress.

The writers of this piece of crap never even bothered to mention a reason why the monks simply did not destroy the scroll in the first place. If it was so terrible, if it fell into the wrong hands they should have destroyed it, and that would be the end of that. Of course, if they did, there wouldn't be a movie. Which can only mean two things (both of them are good), there would be an entirely diffrent movie (anything would be better than this) and the other being there really is no movie, I think that would be the best for all concerned. :-)

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i couldn't agree more... so far. i got half way through this film last night, and although i wasn't tired, i opted to go to bed early rather than watch this entire piece of dross in one sitting.
re: the scroll not being destroyed... it promises heaven or hell on earth, depending on who reads it i think. if the monk guarding it is so bloody holy, why doesn't he read it? ooh, maybe that comes at the end! can't wait to switch on the tape again!
i can't believe my first post is writing about bulletproof monk, who incidentally is more concerned about avoiding bullets than anything else. the acting is atrocious, the script weak, the story average. i have an antidote for picking up crap like this. i always hire a classic when i hire something new. do i watch the rest of bulletproof monk, or drunken master?
and i must disagree, vniksic, with the stiffmeister... i really wanted "Monk!" to stop following this guy and let him walk out of the film.

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Well people are entitled not to like the movie, but it's a shame some of them don't know what they're talking about...

The scroll doesn't get destroyed because it's power is still supposed to be used one day... in the distant future, when man had learnt, and is pure enough to read it and bring about paradise.. until then, man is always flawed and imperfect and nobody can be allowed to read it.

Anyone taking the time to analyse this would realise the point it's making is that when the time comes that humans are pure enough to bring about the paradise using the scroll, that paradise will have already been attained - i.e. for mankind to be worthy to have paradise, they must evolve and attain it themselves.

So the scroll itself means nothing - it's just a symbol of the ultimate goal of our existence, and it's potential to bring about "Hell", a symbol of how we're currently far from perfect, like the Nazi guy.

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I bought this because of the great cast, but this needs to be put out of its misery. I can't blame the direction because there wasn't any!

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That's a ridiculously stupid theory.

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And you're a ridiculously stupid person, so all is good :)

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Ha... Whether I'm ridiculously stupid or not has little to do with the fact that your argument is completely retarded and utterly useless.

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Again, you yourself - are completely retarded and completely useless. And it's not really an argument. And it is a plausible interpretation of the film. How about you be a little more constructive and actually go into detail about what you disagree with instead of being a brainless little flame boy?

Come on - I posted the thing 2 months ago. Don't you realise how moronic you're making yourself look? Now stop bugging me - I have better things to do than return here to argue with some spotty little virgin geek over something I said 2 months ago.

Catch ya later bitch ;)

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Heh... Obviously you don't have better things to do... you'll keep responding. And I love how you say the exact same thing I say about you as your response, very witty. Pure genius...

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I turn up to agree with something you said seven years ago. How moronic and virgin geeky is THAT? Anyways, I agree with your interpretation :D

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Correct me if i'm wrong, but the scroll can't be destroyed. It's seared into the skin of the monk who guards it. And thanks to the power of the scroll that monk cannot be killed.

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Yes that’s true but I think these two have moved past the fact that the scroll can not be destroyed.

I personally thought that this movie was very weak in many places and the plot didn’t follow a linier path. I did think that greenoptics had an excellent point but that he is looking far to deep into a film that was made simply to produce a few laughs.

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That part isn't quite clear to me, because...

In the beginning of the film Monk grabs the scroll and runs away with it..apparantly because the text is on the scroll.
He probably tattood it on his chest and belly himself......therefore he read it!
(Ohyeah and he memorized the last part and replaced the scroll with a noodlesoup recipe....I don't think higher powers did that.)

If the real scroll can't be destroyed then I bet he just ate it...and maybe that's why it's on his chest+belly....but can you look at that in the mirror for 60 years without reading anything of it at all?

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If I recall correctly the whole scroll had to be read out loud for it's full effect

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Honestly I can think of many movies where I've said "well if they'd only done *this* then it could have solved the whole damned problem in the first place", but as you've already pointed out, then we wouldn't have a story.

One of the first examples to pop into mind was in Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring. In the flashback where Elrond is whingeing about the weakness of men and how he'd gone with Isildur to the fire of Mount Doom, but Isildur became possessed and walked out with the ring: my first thought was, "you know Elrond, one good shot to the guy's back could have sent him over the edge, the Ring would be gone, end of story." But again, that's the point - it would have been the end of the story before the epic could really get going. As a viewer, I accept that and am willing to run with it. But there's always that cynical part of me that says "man, that was DUMB!" :)

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Why not just destroy the damned thing??


Because Monks don't know the way to Mount Doom

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and plus, its like a tridition, would u destory ur own family's trition?

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If the tradition is playing with nuclear warheads...
then Yes

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Yeah, the film was a massive let down, but right at the start the master tells him that the scroll can be used for great good or great evil, and the human race wasn't ready for it yet. So I suppose thats why it couldn't be destroyed.

Cheers

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He did say why at the end- "I have been hoping for 60 years you would change..."
just before the Nazi falls

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Anyone who expects a Nazi to change is just plain ignorant.

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At least one professional critic mentioned this, too, and I know it's answered below, but it bears repeating--one could only think that destroying the scroll instead was an option if one wasn't really paying attention to the situation set up by the film. The scroll could be used for good, too, and the overarching point was to use it to eventually bring about a utopia, but it's stated that mankind wasn't ready for it yet. However, in the interim, we see that the monk was using the powers for good. If the scroll had been destroyed instead, that wouldn't be possible.

So it was up to the monks to protect the scroll and use it in limited ways until the right time arrived. If they were to destroy it, they'd be doing something bad themselves, especially given that the source of the scroll and its power is obviously supernatural, so presumably the monks were simply entrusted with it until the right time would arrive.

It's also basically a metaphor for free will. Free will can be used for good or bad. If we could just destroy it instead, should we do that just because some will use it for bad?

Thinking that it's a "plot hole" as one professional critic called it that the scroll isn't simply destroyed instead is evidence rather that that critic either wasn't quite paying attention to the film, the film was a bit over his head, or possibly both.


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who cares what some wanker critic said?

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In other words, I was simply acknowledging that I wasn't the first person to point out what I was about to say.


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