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The end is so bad it actually hurts


I loved the series. I love Star Trek in general but I really liked seeing the first enterprise and what followed first contact. But oh sweet Jesus, after watching the last episode I feel like I was screwed with my pants on.

I'm not usually one who slags off the writers of any TV show. But please tell me I'm not the only one who felt very let down?

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I'd suggest reading the Enterprise books, they retcon that ending.

Andrew
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"Dream not of today"

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Been reading the books and yeah, trip is still alive but he's no longer really "Trip" Tucker anymore. In making "These are the Voyages", they gave almost a finality to Trip's situation. He no longer will "exist" in the history books... Even though he's technically alive, he is completely erased from history from that point on... That's just really sad. He did so many heroic things in the book series yet, no one will know about it except for the other non-existent people and his chosen few. He, as a character, deserved so much more than that. In the series, he was really the one who brought all the other characters together. He was the guy that everyone liked and got along with... He was the glue... After the Romulan Wars (from the book series), he just became the guy in the side story that really wasn't a part of the action, almost an after thought. He was the guy in the background with no friends (which is sad for a character like him) and T'Pol's love interest. Now everyone else is moving on and getting all the glory because their names end up in the history books. Even Malcolm and Mayweather, my least favorite characters, are actually skipping ranks in the book series. That pisses me off even more! THANK YOU BERMAN and BRANNON! F#$# YOU!

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Just finished the show about an hour ago. I actually didn't hate the last episode, but I watched it for what it was. A holodeck program on TNG. I couldn't really accept anything that was happening as any sort of truth. So meh, it was a cute something.

I feel like season 4 really ran out of gas in the back end. I really liked what they did with the Klingons and the augment tying into lost cranial ridges. That was great. After that it was just a lot of nonsense. What was the point of two Mirror Universe episodes set entirely in the mirror universe with no relevance on the main show whatsoever? Just a ratings grab. And then that feminist twist on the Orions omg. Could have done without that. And then that ridiculous Peter Weller storyline with terrorism and human rebellions against aliens and people blowing their heads off with phasers. My lord, that's not Star Trek. By the time the actually ending came, I was pretty checked out.

Season 3 and most of season 4 was just terrific. But they wasted no time undoing all that. Pretty good show overall. It just needed some more levity. Space adventure has to be a little bit fun and exciting or what are you fighting for?

"I said no camels, that's five camels, can't you count?"

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You hated the Mirror Universe episodes?

And you claim you want space adventures to be fun... that's what those two episodes were, just the writers, crew and cast just having as much fun with the concept of evil versions of their characters as they could.

And I don't care what that ship was called, when we saw it light up and crap over all they other ships, we saw the Enterprise.

The entire fourth season was what the series should have been doing from the start... tying itself piece by piece into TOS.

And the final two episodes, I don't think of that stupid Holodeck finale as canon or ever having actually happened... except for the montage of Enterprises and Captains opening monologue cause that was awesome, anyway, the final two episodes were great, particularly at showing that many of the changes that happen to get everything to where it is in TOS are still happening and that humans still have some growing up to do yet.

Plus we got hear Archer giving a good Star Trek speech and none of that stupid gazelle bull. It felt Star Trek, because after everything Archer and crew had been through, it felt like he meant every word.

At least we got to hear that speech. One wonders why they didn't let us hear the stupid speech at the founding of the Federation he supposedly made that every kid aftet had to memorise at school.

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In my mind the speech we hear Archer give is the "famous speech", there was no reason to tease it and then cut it off before he starts talking, so the "founding of the federation" speech in my book is the "Coalition" speech he gives at the end of the two part episiode.

"Always two there are , a master and an apprentice"

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Keep in mind that while the writers knew from the first show the series was being canceled, they were left with seeking an ending threes years premature. This is what happens when writters create a series that attemps seemless intergration with an existing franchise. The series was supposed to end with victory in the Romulan War and te founding of the Federation. The series was cut and if you watch the Season 4 DVD you'll get an exlanation for a less than ideal ending.

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Kind of a shame this is what they came up with for an ending, but it was an ending three years ahead of what was planned. I saw no point in killing Trip seemed pointless, but they mishandled the Trip/T'pal romance, might as well kill him off for no apparent reason too. Poorly written final almost as bad as the end of Voyager.

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T'pol's outfit should have totally exploded from four years of internal pressure and in some weird space wang dang doodle thingy, shredded Hoshi's outfit at the same time. Then they should have spent the rest of the show playing Twister while discussing the various ways to cook clams.

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So funny, man!!! Hahaha

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I don't understand why they killed off Trip. But I did like the montage of the captains speaking. I wish it had gone another season or two with a war with the Romulans and the founding of the Federation.

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I liked it. As people said, it ended earlier than what they wanted or expected so they had to compensate. But in all honesty, I like the ending. It wasn't an ending to just Enterprise but an ending to this entire new wave of Star Trek Shows that began with TNG and ended with Enterprise. It was nice.

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I hated the entire ending. It was an insult to Enterprise fans. We did not need characters from TNG showing up, we didn't need to see Trip die. There are so many other ways it could have gone. For example, they could have gotten their engines enhanced so they could travel farther and then have Archer give a command to go see what's out there, or something. Anything but holograms!

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