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After seeing so many good films at the 2011 Boston French Film Festival, maybe I am spoiled. But this film is really only worth it for the stunning visuals>> like a series of fashion shoots. No character is fleshed out and real and no one gives you any reason for empathy. Terrible screenwriting. I wanted to see Benoit Magimel, who has done some good work, but even with him (in his thankless empty role)I couldn't engage at all. If you are a student of costume design/architecture/set design, this is great for you. But don't expect to develop any feelings from it. For a more engaging and memorable 'set piece', see The Fall instead.






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I agree that the characters are somewhat kept at a distance; like viewing a painting. Even Lully, who the audience sees more intimately, is just a portrait and thanks to the actor a rather beautiful one.

I'm watching it because of Benoit Magimel and whilst there is not much for him to bring to the character I have enjoyed seeing him dancing and in elaborate costumes with long hair. :D

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yes, isn't he terrific? i've tried to see all i could of him, here in the u.s.
i first saw him in the Bridesmaid, then Thieves w/ daniel auteuil / cath deneuve- that was really superb/multilayered/complex i thought.) what else?
life is a long quiet river; and children of the century (terrif performance i thought.flower of evil (o.k., not great) i will not see the piano tchr or la haine. Any other recs?





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Actually North America seems to be easier served for watching Benoit as many of his DVDs that I'm purchasing to watch are region 1s. I've seen the Bridesmaid and wasn't keen on the film, though love his screen time. I haven't seen Thieves; not available on dvd at the moment. I love watching him on screen. He's physically beautiful (aside from his ears lol) and is a heady mix of emotional and sensual.

Why don't you want to see La Haine or The Piano Teacher? Both are great films though there's not much to see of Benoit in La Haine. But I love, love, love The Piano Teacher. he's amazing; Huppert is superb; and they have terrific chemistry. I think it's a near perfect film.

I love Children of the Century. His character made me so sad for him.

Other recommendations, in order, though be warned I'm such a fanatic it's hard for me to exercise objectivity:

To Mathieu (2000): this has a poor IMDb rating and I can see why although the film really affected me. But in terms of Benoit's performance it's a must as he is on screen throughout doing what he does best: playing a 'still waters run deep' man of tremendous passion.

L'ennemi intime (2007): a super film examining a complex historical matter with great acting all round. Very sad ending.

Errances (2003): another with a low IMDb rating and I think this is a love or hate film. I love it and Benoit plays a disturbed alcoholic with brooding intensity and sorrow.

Paris Lockdown (2007): a mixed film but Benoit has the best character and one who stays in people's minds afterwards.

Déjà mort (1998): has to be seen for Benoit's first lead as an adult. He's gorgeous in this.

Crimson Rivers 2: Angels of the Apocalypse (2004): a ludicrous premise but better than the first film and I thought Benoit's pairing with Reno worked better than Cassel's.

Sky Fighters (2005): an action film and one for the boys but it's fun and visually stunning and Benoit gets to play hero.

Single Girl (1995): a small role for Benoit but he's so lovely and young.

The Nest (2002): an intelligent action film with good performances all round so Benoit is not the most prominent.

The Girl Cut in Two (2007): I don't care for this film, leaves me emotionally cold but Benoit has a complicated character role.

Feel free to post again if you get to see any of the above and want to chat about them.

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i don't want to see the piano tchr or la haine because of the types and levels of violence. can't handle it.

are you in the u,s.? (i don't know region 1 etc .)
are you a french film fanatic? (yes, i am myself)







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Neither La Haine or The Piano Teacher feature violence, especially not La Haine. In fact La Haine has talk about violence and posturing but very little shown. TPT has self-harm and one scene of sexual violence though the latter is more emotionally affecting then graphic because of how the director shot it.

No I'm in the UK. DVDs are number coded to signify which single region players they're compatable with. Region 1 is the code for North American DVD players. I recently got a multi-region player so I can watch any of them because I was frustrated that some films were not available in my region.

I love French films, especially where they feature gorgeous men and I am a bit of a sucker for the French language as well as the men!!

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re la haine: REALLY? not violent? that's not the rape one w/ vincent cassel?
a film titled Hate is not violent? if so, plse tell me why you're glad you saw it; i'd like to learn. and the same w/ piano tchr.

are you in london where you get to see alot of french films?i'm in boston and we do get some fr films here, and have a great 20 film annual fr film festival at the boston musm of fine arts.

as to french actors, i am most keen on:
depardieu
autheuil
luchini
phillipe noiret
vincent london (mme.chambert? thump thump thump)
cassel (read my lips?)
cluzot
l'hermitte
amelric
Albert Dupontel
Melvil Poupaud(talk about a hunk; oh my)
gaspard ulliel
magimal




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re la haine: REALLY? not violent? that's not the rape one w/ vincent cassel?
No that's Irreversible and whilst that film is worth watching for its style and use of camera, as well as excellent performances from its trio of stars, I find the rape scene exploitative and question the director's intention. So if a rape scene would put you off I wouldn't recommend Irreversible.
a film titled Hate is not violent? if so, plse tell me why you're glad you saw it; i'd like to learn.
It's more about the feeling of hate and exploring the origins of it by showing the underclass who live in Paris's suburbs. The context is riots in Paris but we don't see them and the little violence there is, is not in anyway explicit. It's a superb tragi-comedy and social commentary again with 3 central performances.
and the same w/ piano tchr.
The Piano Teacher is emotionally disturbing/distressing because the central character, Erika played by Huppert, is a damaged personality in a psychiatric sense. She has an ill-fated relationship with a pupil, played by Magimel, and ends up unravelling. As I said there is self-harm and one scene of sexual violence but Haneke, the director, always avoids showing anything explicit because he is so anti-gratuity in film.
are you in london where you get to see alot of french films?i'm in boston and we do get some fr films here, and have a great 20 film annual fr film festival at the boston musm of fine arts.
I am in London but don't take advantage enough to see films at the cinema though I've joined an art house cinema for the year to galvanise me into going more often. Your French festival sounds good. I imagine that the French institute in London offers something similar to your Boston FF as would the BFI every so often.

Of your list the only actors I've seen are Depardieu (of course!), Autueil (like very much), Noiret (like him too) and Cassel (love him, but not as much as Magimel and Read My Lips is my fav performance of his). I think you perhaps like French films more than me :D I really appreciate the intellectualism and intelligence of the dialogue in French films plus actors allowed to embody and portray their roles without being didactic. I recommend The Girl Cut in Two then from the Magimel films I've seen as it's very French in terms of manners and society.

Are Vincent Lindon and Melvil Poupaud your favourites? Which films of theirs would you recommend?

A brilliant French film I watched more recently was Lady Chatterley (2006, I think); an adaptation of DH Lawrence's novel. This film really captured the sensibility of Lawrence and he would have been thrilled by how much the director, screen writer and actors brought his novel alive. Playing the gamekeeper was a relative unknown actor called Jean-Louis Coullo'ch and he was superb, as well as strangely attractive.
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no they're not my favs but i really like them.

lindon good films:
mdmoiselle chambon
welcome
chaos( great film but not for him; he's a doofus in it)
friday


this list seems really good. thought you might find it interesting:
http://www.imdb.com/list/kn7r3QZMGGk/

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@film_ophile: funny, though I totally get your viewpoint I personally felt very differently about the movie! -I- started to feel with many characters and felt positively engaged.
The film seems to be very good in creating this duality - I already read from other reviewers who felt emotionally bored as well, but also from people who felt at least similar to me. A person I actually -talked- to about the movie admitted that he ... felt asleep after a while. :)

A few years after seeing "Le roi danse" I watched "Farinelli" by the same director with high expectations. Farinelli even got an Oscar nomination! And - what do you know, I felt very much exactly like you felt about Le roi danse. Pretty pictures, but characters and a story I could hardly care about.

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i saw Far. so long ago and don't remember being v. impressed.Did not realize the director was the same.thx for that info.






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