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Interpretation of the ending


After watching the film, one idea I had was that the end didn't really happen - that everything after they all went to sleep was a fantasy of the younger sister...her older sister and mom being violently killed; being picked over her sister for a sexual encounter; her being "raped" by the truck driver in keeping with her ideal first time; Anais being the center of attention for the police and ultimately for the audience. Sort of a "Mulholland Dr." type deal where the end is comprised of several pieces of Anais' imagination/fantasy world as well as her frustrations, longings, desires, hatred, etc.

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All I know is I was so bored during this movie, I turned to the person I was w/ and said, "the only way this movie can redeem itself is if a guy comes out of nowhere and kills everyone."

And then, lo and behold, it happened.

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I believe that the events did happen and the only reason Anais didn't scream for help or fight the rapist off of her was because she wanted it.

It's all about the corned beef sandwiches and pineapple juice

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ahhh Diplodocus55, thank you... for your quote brought me great happiness after viewing this film, now I may sleep in relative peace.



"For sex scenes I make the actors do things that I don't film. Then I film the state that it puts them in."

-Catherine Breillat

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So true.



Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.

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You know, I absolutely despised this movie but your interpretation of the ending actually makes more sense, and makes the movie itself a bit more palatable. I saw Fat Girl in an art house type NYC movie theater and mostly everyone was grumbling about it afterwards -- boring and drawn out, gratuitous sex, nudity, violence, unrealistic and cringe-worthy dialog. In fact, when we got out to the street, one guy yelled out "Whatever you do New York, do not go to see Fat Girl!".

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Maybe he felt guilty because of how much he related to the big nosed jerkish *beep* italian character?

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Don't try too hard to interpret this movie. I think it all happened and Mullholand Dr. had nothing to do with Fantasy and imagination. you can't really compare Mullholand with this movie.

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I think your theory really holds water (an extreme manifest of Anais' desires). I took it to draw a parallel between the rape and subsequent denial of both girls. Anais' is blatant as to fit her pragmatic nature (and her ideal deflowering- in terms of the guy being nothing, not the butchering of her mother and sister). The movie is about the iNNOCENCE-SLAYERS ,ha, in all their forms. Why choose to have the dad absent at the end though? You think there is meaning to this (aside from being a plot device)?

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Well, I just watched this on FilmFour in the UK and unfortunately The British Film Board passed the film uncut for cinematic release but cut the rape scene at the end for home viewing (DVD, VHS and broadcast) because they believed that if the scene were ever isolated from the film, it could encourage paedophiles to groom young girls. Or something. Honestly, I think the only way their concerns would be justified is if you take the ending as a wish fulfilling daydream of Anais'. Breillat is a first-class provocateur so I'm sure the intention is for it to be open for interpretation; and, equally, not to have to explain her work.

If the ending is taken literally, it's fairly unsatisfying. But I think the build up on the highway w/ Anais vomiting, her mother playing loud music and disregarding her daughter's feelings, her calling attention to Anais' hunger, etc., makes it clear that Anais is in a pretty agitated state. I mean, it's a film about pre-pubescent girls throwing themselves head-long into their budding sexuality, not a film about violence at highway rest stops. Aside from her childish, revenge fantasy tag line ("Don't believe me if you don't want to..."), there's also clearly something of a smile on the face of her dead sister's body (among other details) which defies the ultra-realism of the rest of the film. Clearly there's a separation there but Breillat's not going to be overly obvious about it. What makes it a powerful ending is the mind of the young girl and how she is processing a tempestuous mix of feelings about herself, her sexuality, her sister, her mother, etc. To be like, "Oh well, I guess they all died then," pretty much misses the point.

I've seen Breillat's Romance and thought, as a film, it was a bunch of pretentious rubbish but this film shows a real maturity for her as an artist. I thought it was excellent. Makes me want to check out some of her more recent work.

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Okay,
SO i didnt have the interpretation you had initially and then went back to watch the butcher scene.

It makes more sense. There is a great deal of time that passes that the mother does nothing when the windshield is broken and the first daughter killed. Then the killer looking at the girl. Then, the scene cuts to the girl pissing. Then, quick cut to the mother being choked. completely against the films previous realism. The mother doing nothing-no movement, nothing, all that time? goes into the theory that it's all in her mind.

Thought then, that the little girl watches--she is the voyeur the whole time. She watches the man butcher her sister (penetrate her face with the phallic axe) and then kill her mother. She clearly decides that he is not into her and "casually" gets out of the car. Then, he ends up "wanting" her.

Very thought provoking.

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Think simpler. The Fat Girl says she wasn't raped cause she decided not to be raped, that's it. It's some kind of feminist idea there. Phallic axe? The murders are just a plot device, the girl is now all by herself and has to deal with the situation. Why would all of it be on her mind? What would be the purpouse of that?

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thank you for being the only reasonable person here.

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Mariko

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I agree that this explains Anais' words at the end of the film.

For me the thing which ruins the film is that the mother and sister are murdered - because, much as I understand that this suggests to Anais that she must have been the most sexually desirable of the three, I do not think anyone could have reacted in such a seemingly 'rational' manner having just seen close family members brutally murdered. I think the point would have been made better had it been a solo incident.

The crux of the story concerns girls losing their virginity. One believed herself in love, and loved - and yet is effectively raped (at least on their first night together) by the a guy claiming that his actions are a proof of love. The other is violently raped by a stranger. In both cases, it is a horribly brutal image. We see the fallout and misery of the older girl - but the way the film is timed prevents us from seeing the consequences of Anais' ordeal. Perhaps due to the fact that after that one sentence it may be impossible to separate her grief concerning her family, from her thoughts specifically about the 'rape'.

Also interesting are the ideas around shame - Elena is ashamed... yet Anais shows no such emotion (perhaps due to shock) and is even defiant in her final statement.

Very thought provoking film. Especially for any girl who had issues with their virginity (ie - all girls!)

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I like the explanation very much.

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I felt it was pretty reasonable deduction myself. No Mullholland Dr. fantasies involved. The only thing that bothered me or that I kept questioning, because I knew something was going to happen once they set off to driving ... was that man after Anais or what? I thought originally they would kill the sister to show that her side of the coin wasn't all perfect either. She had a guy who obviously just wanted to hit it, so being beautiful could get you into danger in many ways. So when the guy raped the sister I felt like he got off on killing the pretty one and then spur of the moment took pity on the fat one and raped her or used her as a vehicle to climax if you know what I mean. I don't know ...

I'm still mentally toying with this one.

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I am not certain what the director had in mind. Maybe she left it to our own interpretation. The ending has certainly stayed with me.

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Maybe he chose her because she was younger and also more likely to be a virgin?
Her sister looked quite a bit older than her.

Either that or he planned to kill them but due to Anais being all the way in the back of the car (out of reach) he had a bit more time to thin and decided to rape her for some reason (if that wasn't his initial plan)

I think people like rebecca are missing the point completely.
In no way did Anais react rationally.

You seem to be having trouble with the concept of people being frozen with fear. A lot of people in traumatic situations think they will stay calm, or fight back, or scream and run for their lives in a dangerous situation but very often a person will find that they are incapable of doing anything due to fear and/or shock.


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In the dark parking place, in the dark of the car and in few seconds as the murders happened it is hard to believe the killer had time to make choices. And there is no reason to think that he knew who was sitting on which seat in the car.

Rationally... no. It was impulsive, and it was the reaction that logically followed her expectations and wishes. One has to take time to create rationalizations. Maybe in few days, more likely weeks or months Anais would make one, to help herself cope with the events. Of course, unless she was a psychopath without capability to feel any emotion regarding to what had happened (this possibility was analyzed on another thread).

The last paragraph... frozen with fear... yes, and Anais seemed to be in first minute or two. The process of losing that fear is the most interesting thing, and the best this actress did in whole movie.

By the way... I like discussing about movies that can offer different ideas, points of view, interpretations, explanations... "Endless Sunshine of the Spotless Mind"... "Mulholland Drive"... "Seventh Seal"... "Solaris" (original)... Not to mention "2001" and discuss it with people happy enough not to have read the book or capable of ignoring it.

But "Á ma soeur" seemed to be simple, linear, clear, realistic. And we have here several threads with theories about the ending - from dreams to nightmares, symbolism to aliens, visualized hopes of one to suicidal sacrifice of another sister... People, don't ever try to discuss "101 Dalmatian", "Police Academy" or "Freddy vs Jason"... I am shivering, I am simply horrified what would you be able to extract from them...

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I completely agree. Your interpretation was almost word for word my interpretation of the end.

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But "Á ma soeur" seemed to be simple, linear, clear, realistic. And we have here several threads with theories about the ending - from dreams to nightmares, symbolism to aliens, visualized hopes of one to suicidal sacrifice of another sister... People, don't ever try to discuss "101 Dalmatian", "Police Academy" or "Freddy vs Jason"... I am shivering, I am simply horrified what would you be able to extract from them...


I agree, I thought the ending was pretty much self explanatory and I didn't realise people were throwing around so many different (and some crazy) theories about it. I found her reaction to the rape shocking, and for me it was an ending that has stuck wth me as one of the most twisted I have seen and got me interested Breillat's films. I've seen a few but A ma soeur was the most shocking, Anatomie de l'enfer follows closely though.
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My understanding is that to Anais what the murderer has done to her sexually is so much less disturbing than the "sex" her older sister has endured that it couldn't possibly be rape. I think this is a point the director's making about the private violence of certain male attitudes towards sex.

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