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engaging from the start


Dust, for the most part, was really good. It had a lot of symbolism that you might not get if you aren't familiar with macedonian history, but don't let that stop you from enjoying a the film. Joseph Fiennes' role could have been longer :-) but the film was still great.

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Sorry but I thought Joseph Fiennes was chewing his tongue for most of the film! I could barely hear what he was saying!

Fantastic performance from David Wenham though - the only saving grace for this film!

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Who are you kidding? The movie is long, boring,terrible, and unbelieveable. It's got nothing but cheap, kinky sex and vulgar swear words in it. It also has a racial slant towards the Turks. It makes the Turks look like the scum of the earth and makes the Macedonians out as innocent angels who were badly oppressed by boorish Turks. I for one would like to see a movie actually portray the Ottomans as good guys for once. After all these years they deserve some credit for having one of the largest empires in both Asia and Europe.

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yes, engaging from the start,

among the best films of the last years.

good and bad guys on all sides, just look at the film twice.






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well if all the peoples around Turkey hated the turks, then yeah i don't think the turks did such a good job at the beginning of the century. Especially when they killed of 1/3 of the armenian people. So yeah the turks became vicious and cold blooded killers at the beginning of the 20th century since they saw that they're empire was collapsing..and by the way, the old woman in the movie mentions that they were mostly gangs, and most not officially turkish soldiers.. Also Ataturk, who took control of turkey and modernized it after the ottoman empire collapse was a turk born in macedonia and studied in macedonia as well...that's a fun fact for you..

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Sure. I agree... while were at it why not make a movie portraying the Nazis as good guys. WWII era Germany also commanded quite the impressive empire. But the question is how did they do it.

Things were a little more cut and dry in those days. Even the Turks are embarrassed by their conduct during the Ottoman Empire era.

The only redeeming quality the Ottomans had was that they didn't eradicate the local Macedonian culture the way that those who followed in their footsteps (i.e. the Greeks, the Serbs, the Bulgarians, etc.) did after the demise of the Turkish empire.

As a footnote... the movie also portrayed Macedonians as vicious. Take another look at the scene when The Teacher executes the scared and wounded young Turkish soldier.

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I couldn't have agreed more.
Just because Ottomans ruled most of the world back in the days, Turk have always been underrated and were portrayed as bad/cannibal kind of people.
They deserve being portrayed better since they left such a huge culture behind.

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The turks were the first to recognise the Macedonia as Republic of Macedonia, our "brothers" the serbs, bulgarians, and greeks still to this day try to destroy our culture and history and claim it as their own. I also feel sorry for the small group of educated turkish people that lived in macedonia and that have been killed by albanian militants.

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This is a good movie, it's symbolism and it's treatment of the historical themes is a bit heavy handed.

What always happens?
That non Americans mix images of american culture, and when non americans are playing the americans it can be even worse. I think people justifiably proud of ancient cultures can't really internalise the fact that a country with as young a culture as ours is so distinct. So like big brothers they add a bit here and there to make us look older.

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ruddy heck.. i've turned it on an hour into it. I can't tell what the dickens is going on, although that might have been the case in any event. Puzzling, yet awesome seeming. i may have to rent this.

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